Combining the Sets

[Nicholai]

I was hoping we could get some advice on combining the cards from the Next Phase in with the first set. I could simply pile them all together, but I'm not sure if that is the best idea. On the plus side it would make some of the strategies from the first game a bit harder to execute because you wouldn't be as easily able to make some cards appear in Starbase via searching with so many cards added.

As more and more sets (I hope more come out and I hope the game is doing well) hit it'd be great to have some sort of guidelines on how big the different decks should be and perhaps something going into having X maneuvers, X setups, X characters, and saying how the cost of those cards should be spread out. I've heard of someone editing together what they felt was a better set of cards in another deck building game only to realize he didn't include enough low cost cards which ruined the way the game played.

[Aziron]

I agree, even the back of the box tell us that we can combine the game but I would like to know how and if we want to seprate them again how do we do that without marking the cards. I hope that this is not one of those things that Bandai assumes that we know and decided not to explain.

Please tell us how to combine the two games.

[hankahn]

In the Resident Evil DBG they made suggestions for how to combine the sets. I have been through the new instruction manual for ST DBG and don't see anything of the sort. Maybe Alex can provide some guidance as far as mixing the sets goes.

[MasterOb1]

I was sort of assuming you could mix all the blue cards and pruple starship cards. Leaving out romulan unification and borg cards. That seemed like a good mix to me (while also doing the same for missions etc.)
I am however a little confused as to why we got klingon civil war starter ships again

[Aziron]

The extra Klingon ships are for you to be able to play a 9 player civil war. Both the Romulan and the klingon games now have a possible 9 players with both expansions.

Well we got to play the games combined and it works sorta. For the borg game we played with 3 players and combined all of the ships, space deck, and starbase cards. It went smooth for the most part. The new Borg cube cards get real nasty combined with the older ones.

With the Romulan game I recommend that you do not combine the starships from the first game since those ships' stats are too high to work well with this game.

[almostmeek]

I am sad that in the 2.0 rulebook they did not include a section about combineing the 2 sets, in the REBG books they had suggested setups bassed on what expansions you owned.

too bad really

I think i am just going to shuffle all of the cards together like we do with ascension

[Alex_Bandai]

The plan was that you would come up with your own ideas once you played each gave separately.

The easiest solution is just to combine all alike cards to form giant space decks/ starbase decks.

However here are my other suggestions:

(15) Standard Starships
Swap out the Premiere 15 for the new 15 and vice versa in each Scenario.
If you feel that Starships are a bit too strong in your games, use only the lowest value Starships from the 2 games so that no player can have a runaway lead with a large Starship.

Space Deck Setup
Exploration Scenario - Randomly and without any player seeing, select 25 cards from among all 50 Exploration Scenario cards. This way no player can be sure if any card is in the Space Deck until it is revealed. To be on the safe side, play to 300 points.
Borg Scenario - On a similar setup, Randomly select 24 of the 48 (Excluding Locutus and Borg Queen) Borg Cards to form the Space Deck then randomly select from among the Borg Queen and Locutus card to add in the last card.

Feel free to post any good setups that you have come up with using the 2 games.

[Jan Horinek]

That 25 point Enterprise makes me happy. We play 2 player games with my wife, with only 25 point ships in the deck (it works great). But no Enterprise till now. Thank you for that

[mugato]

I saw The Next Phase this weekend for the first time. I was quite surprised that there was not any type of set designation on the cards. It makes un-combining the sets much more difficult. I did notice the copy rite date is different but that's very small if you are trying to sort the cards out quickly.

[Saibrock]

I feel cheated. I bought the Next Phase Edition along with the Premier Edition, because on the Next Phase Edition box it said it could be used in conjunction with the Premier Edition. I didn't expect it to have to figure out how to combine them myself. This company is very sloppy in its design and practices, and that will factor heavily into my upcoming game review.