extra exploring

[NateXero]

Senario:
Using 120 health chris with level 2
Using the tripple barrel shot gun
Choose to explore all 3 times at once
Reveal 2 zombie horde (30*2) and a hunter(40) in this order
My Damage is now 95

Questions:
Do I kill any of these infected or do they all survive? (What is throwing me off is the rule book says "all other non defeated are randomly placed on the bottom of the mansion.")
If I do manage to kill some infected, are the infected defeated in the order they are revealed, or can I choose which ones I want to inflict damage upon?

[Gibb]

If you explore all at once, you have to defeat all of them to defeat any. So no you don't kill any of them. If you explored once, then split up your damage to explore separate times you could have defeated some of them.

[NateXero]

Well I know you are wrong on the second part.
You can only use a weapon once (unless you use leon)

Also please explain to me then this quote
"All revealed infected that were not defeated..."
No where in the rule book does it say that you have to kill both or non at all, it only says that if you can not to take ball damage.

[Gibb]

From the Rulebook V4

Some Weapons, like Shotguns, allow a Character to Explore multiple times in a
turn. If a Player has multiple Explores, they can use 1 Explore at a time, or all
at once. If multiple Infected are Revealed all at once, the Player’s total Damage
m ust exceed or equal the Revealed Infected’s combined Health.
If it does not, then the Character receives the total Damage of all the Revealed
Infected. Afterwards, all Revealed Infected that were not Defeated are moved to
the bottom of the Mansion in a random order.

Players can also choose to Explore 1 at a time. While this way is much safer,
you also require more weaponry, since Weapons apply their whole Damage
only on the Explore when they are used and can only be used once per turn.
When doing this, repeat all steps under EXPLORING THE MANSION
(Pg. 14) for each single instance of Exploring.

You're right that the line "afterwards, all Revealed Infected that were not Defeated are moved to
the bottom of the Mansion in a random order." seems a bit ambiguous. I've always read it like this to mean if you decide to explore all at once and attack 3 infected, then you lose to all 3 infected and kill none of them. If you attack 1 infected, then 2 infected, and lose to the 2, then you still kill the first infected, but neither of the other 2.

Also, even tho you can only use a weapon once when you split up explores, the shotgun still gives you bonus explores.

Does this make sense?

[NateXero]

I get the extra explores, but because you need a second weapon if you decide to seperate I always performe both at the same time. This is where the problem for me is. And in the past I have followed your logic, but I've been wrong a lot lately. I was just looking for a more concrete reasoning other then speculation.

To add, I'm at work so I can't search for the exact quote, but someone said herbs work like the video game, if that's the case why not the explores? It is very common in the game to have to fight multiple monsters and kill a few but not be able to kill them all.

[Gibb]

Here is a quote from the FAQ thread (official rulings by Tylar)
http://www.bandai.com/residentevil/f...prehensive-FAQ

Exploring
- Exploring is not mandatory, except when stated on a card.
- To get the +1 explore from the shotgun you MUST use the shotgun. so unless you have another way of getting the +1 explore, you should use the shotgun first.
- You may explore in 2 way. First you may open the door multiple time in a row using the same weapons. Second, by exploring with separate weapons.

Example, you have 2 Magnums, 100 bullets, and 2 explores.
First way: you would explore with both magnums giving you 100 attack to deal with both Infections.

Second way: you could do an explore with only 1 magnum, facing an infection, and then attack a second time with the second magnum. However, both attacks are at only 50 damage each.
- After you are done exploring, the weapons you used CAN NOT be used again that turn. the Rocket launcher, and grenades will be trashed once you stop, so if you do 3 combined explores, you’ll fight the three at the same time. if you do separate explores, they will be trashed as soon as the explore they are used in is over.

What this means to me is if you had your 100 damage and attacked 2 infected at once, if one was a Hunter (40H) and the other Infected Wesker (90H), then you'd fail the attack and take the total damage.

If you had split up your explores into 2 explores of 50 damage each, then you would have successfully killed the hunter, and failed to kill Infected Wesker, only taking damage from Infected Wesker.

[NateXero]

The rules says you will take both damage reguardless, however it does not say if you did or did not kill the hunter (or wesker if you are allowed to choose)

[Gibb]

The rules says you will take both damage reguardless, however it does not say if you did or did not kill the hunter (or wesker if you are allowed to choose)

If you do the explores separately, then you don't take damage from all Infected (unless you couldn't kill any of them).

Explore #1, Magnum with 50 damage
Flip Mansion card, it's a Hunter. You defeat it and place the Hunter card under your character card, adding its decorations to your total.

You still have +1 Explore, you can choose to explore again with your other Magnum and 50 damage or end your turn.
You choose to explore again.
Explore #2, Magnum with 50 damage
Flip Mansion card, it's Infected Wesker. You fail to defeat him, take 70 damage.

[NateXero]

But we aren't discussing seperate explores, we are discussing a single explore with multiple opponents.

Take operating a bus as to driving a car, you can't drive one like the other.

[Gibb]

But we aren't discussing seperate explores, we are discussing a single explore with multiple opponents.

Take operating a bus as to driving a car, you can't drive one like the other.

So 2 magnums, 100 damage, double explore (at the same time):

Flip Hunter, Flip Infected Wesker. Total health of infected = 130. You only have 100 damage so you don't defeat them, they both damage you.

That's why it says it's safer to do explores 1 at a time in the quotes above.