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  1. #11
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    That's not an official answer at all. I see no reason why it wouldn't use the printed information. The cost of a Broken Butterfly is 80, regardless of how much a player pays for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sWhiteboy View Post
    That's not an official answer at all. I see no reason why it wouldn't use the printed information. The cost of a Broken Butterfly is 80, regardless of how much a player pays for it.
    No, not an official answer, but no one disagreed there at least, though that was a long time ago. As for the main topic, Mikhail's Level 1 says "Weapons cost you 10 less to buy." To me, that means that for Carlos's effect to work, the Weapon would have to start with a cost of at least 90.
    Last edited by 135forte; 08-18-2012 at 09:13 AM. Reason: Wrong name

  3. #13
    "To buy" is not the same as "to gain." Once it hits your discard pile, it is what ever it is. So an 80 that you can buy for 70 is still an 80 in your discard pile. I can't use a weapon that cost 50 with josh because I bought it for 40 can I? Its common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateXero View Post
    "To buy" is not the same as "to gain." Once it hits your discard pile, it is what ever it is. So an 80 that you can buy for 70 is still an 80 in your discard pile. I can't use a weapon that cost 50 with josh because I bought it for 40 can I? Its common sense.
    Carlos' effect says "When you BUY a card with a cost of 80 or more, you can get +1 explore". Shouldn't this mean when you PAY 80 gold or more for a card you get +1 explore? If this is true then Mikhail's effect reduces the cost for weapons by 10 gold so when you buy a broken butterfly you are paying 70 gold and should not get the +1 explore.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by bodybag View Post
    1. Carlos Oliveira (Nightmare) and Mikhail Victor in allience (doesnt matter which one is main or partner). Carlos' lv2 effect says "When you buy a card with a cost of 80 or more, you can get +1 explore" but becuase Mikhail's lv1 effect says "weapons cost you 10 less to buy" so when you buy a Broken Butterfly (or any other weapon that originally costs 80 gold) do you get the +1 explore or not?
    Mikhail's ability says that weapons cost 10 gold less to buy. It doesn't say that the price of weapons are reduced by 10, they simply cost you 10 less to buy. Therefore, a Broken Butterfly's gold cost would remain at 80 and Mikhail is simply allowing you to buy it for 70. So yes, Carlos gets the +1 explore.

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    Maybe someone should point an actual rules authority to this
    "My Name is Chris Renfield, I refuse to carry weapons for basic self-defense in a zombie infested mansion, because I punch rocks and not afraid of anything."

  7. #17
    I'm pretty new to the game and the forums. I got to ask a bunch of questions at the Bandai booth at GenCon and it was immensely helpful. I thought this might be the best place to ask a couple questions since I only own Alliance right now.

    You can only attach two cards to a partner and that is weapons or actions, correct?

    If Claire is at level two, and I trash a green and a red herb does her base 0 damage become 80?

    When can you use an herb? Can you use it while exploring? Like if I flip over a monster that would kill me can I trash a red and green so I go back to full health before it hits me?
    Last edited by Kyu915; 08-21-2012 at 08:26 AM. Reason: rephrasing of question. adding another

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyu915 View Post
    I'm pretty new to the game and the forums. I got to ask a bunch of questions at the Bandai booth at GenCon and it was immensely helpful. I thought this might be the best place to ask a couple questions since I only own Alliance right now.

    You can only attach two cards to a partner and that is weapons or actions, correct?

    If Claire is at level two, and I trash a green and a red herb does her base 0 damage become 80?

    When can you use an herb? Can you use it while exploring? Like if I flip over a monster that would kill me can I trash a red and green so I go back to full health before it hits me?
    1. yes, you may attach weapons from your hand by using up an action. Some actions like "Partners" attach themselves to your partner. You may only have up to 2 cards attached to your partner unless stated otherwise.
    2. yes, her first effect activates twice (once for each herb) and her second effect doubles all your damage for the turn.
    3. no, you can not use a green herb or first aid spray during an explore. you may use herbs at any other time during your turn, even after you explore.

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    Thank you very much, bodybag.

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