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Old 02-19-2013, 01:58 PM
sortofjosh sortofjosh is offline
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I feel the new ninja is kinda underwhelming, Dragonflame is usually the biggest jutsu we play this format and that only has 2 symbols [3 if the (1) counts as a symbol].
It's actually talking about the symbols on the card, not the cost. For instance, double impact would cost an additional 2 colorless to play.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:25 PM
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It's actually talking about the symbols on the card, not the cost. For instance, double impact would cost an additional 2 colorless to play.
Other cards have said otherwise. No I'm must search in q nd a.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:35 PM
NextoftheLegacy NextoftheLegacy is offline
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Other cards have said otherwise. No I'm must search in q nd a.
Assuming it's the same as Frog ***ite, each symbol on the jutsu actually refers to each symbol in the jutsu's cost, not the card's symbol. Both cards could have been written more clearly. Here's a ruling link for ***ite.

EDIT: Qum on. We can say all sorts of nasty things like "smegma" on this site, but not a relatively harmless word that prepubescent kids won't even know about when they hear it? What was filtered wasn't even a WORD for christ's sake.

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Old 02-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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The card will make the differentiation if it is talking about the Symbols in the Jutsu cost. Darui considers the Jutsu's Elemental Symbols. So sortofjosh is correct in this. Otherwise, Darui would say "X = the number of specific Symbols in the Jutsu's cost."
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:44 PM
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The card will make the differentiation if it is talking about the Symbols in the Jutsu cost. Darui considers the Jutsu's Elemental Symbols. So sortofjosh is correct in this. Otherwise, Darui would say "X = the number of specific Symbols in the Jutsu's cost."
I made a booboo and messed up. JKJK. The above ruling takes into account Jiraiya SM increasing the draw by 1. My bad.

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Old 02-20-2013, 09:49 AM
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4th Raikage is up and ppl on facebook going at the old make 6 drops stronger argument
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:57 AM
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4th Raikage is up and ppl on facebook going at the old make 6 drops stronger argument
I want Tylar to publicly address people's concerns related to this set. Like, what was the reason for this card not to have 3 elements like its set 25 counterpart? Why did the Danzo 6 drop in this set have 3 elements but not this Raikage? Why does this Raikage have a mediocre effect and no Flashpoint?? How does he justify making Mu (who is broken and will ruin next format/meta) and then these other 6 drops which are just garbage?? I just do not get it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:08 AM
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I want Tylar to publicly address people's concerns related to this set. Like, what was the reason for this card not to have 3 elements like its set 25 counterpart? Why did the Danzo 6 drop in this set have 3 elements but not this Raikage? Why does this Raikage have a mediocre effect and no Flashpoint?? How does he justify making Mu (who is broken and will ruin next format/meta) and then these other 6 drops which are just garbage?? I just do not get it.
Don't forget madara, a turn 7, with a worse effect than any of the turn 6's OR turn 5's even.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:08 AM
Nickuchiha Nickuchiha is offline
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I want Tylar to publicly address people's concerns related to this set. Like, what was the reason for this card not to have 3 elements like its set 25 counterpart? Why did the Danzo 6 drop in this set have 3 elements but not this Raikage? Why does this Raikage have a mediocre effect and no Flashpoint?? How does he justify making Mu (who is broken and will ruin next format/meta) and then these other 6 drops which are just garbage?? I just do not get it.
There are ways around Mu. Certain missions, and even some jutsu, if the player who has Mu sends out multiple teams. Has anyone really play tested a deck with him in it yet?(Obviously with proxy)
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:30 AM
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I want Tylar to publicly address people's concerns related to this set. Like, what was the reason for this card not to have 3 elements like its set 25 counterpart? Why did the Danzo 6 drop in this set have 3 elements but not this Raikage? Why does this Raikage have a mediocre effect and no Flashpoint?? How does he justify making Mu (who is broken and will ruin next format/meta) and then these other 6 drops which are just garbage?? I just do not get it.
I like that the power level is lower than normal, but this is a dead set until after rotation. I don't think that that is necessarily a bad thing. The power keep has been over the top as of late. If we want the power creep lowered we have to have cards that are bad by comparison. The OP stuff rotates and we're left with the weaker stuff. The weaker the effect the most skill it takes to play. We still need JI, revitalize, role reversal, and the snipe jutsus to go away, but I do like the weaker ninjas.

What's bad about this set is the lack of creativity. All of the Edo Tensei guys work the same way and they all have Sacrifice which makes this set unusable by itself. I feel like this set was rushed and that it's only purpose is to promote the video game and vice versa. This set may be better after rotation.
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