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Old 01-31-2013, 09:27 AM
Sai'ix Renkai Sai'ix Renkai is offline
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hanzo and bad jutsu......both cards are terrible until they finally preview the filter card for the deck
How is Hanzo bad though? Popping off either a whole team damage or a whole team kill at the cost of discarding him? He's not great, but he's definitely not terrible.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:27 AM
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hanzo and bad jutsu......both cards are terrible until they finally preview the filter card for the deck
what the _____ were they thinking making Hanzo? who is going to run 3x clunky 6 drops so you can even get a chance at abusing his effect? and beyond that, you have to discard hanzo after the fact?! that is bogus (so therefore, mangetsu isn't even worth copying his effect since he'd be discarded after the fact)... even if hanzo didn't discard himself, he still would not see play - because his effect can really only be used once since you RFG!!!!

horrible.

the jutsu? so bad that if it was a human its name would be Terry Bad


awful day today for previews.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:29 AM
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what the _____ were they thinking making Hanzo? who is going to run 3x clunky 6 drops so you can even get a chance at abusing his effect? and beyond that, you have to discard hanzo after the fact?! that is bogus (so therefore, mangetsu isn't even worth copying his effect since he'd be discarded after the fact)... even if hanzo didn't discard himself, he still would not see play - because his effect can really only be used once since you RFG!!!!

horrible.

the jutsu? so bad that if it was a human its name would be Terry Bad


awful day today for previews.
It sounds like people need to stop comparing every jutsu to Dragon Flame for a second.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:37 AM
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i like the jutsu that will never see play. that hanzo is a waste of... EVERYTHING.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:55 AM
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How is Hanzo bad though? Popping off either a whole team damage or a whole team kill at the cost of discarding him? He's not great, but he's definitely not terrible.
r u kidding? its a 6 drop so it has ALOT of competition. On top of that he discards himself immediately???? he could have just not discarded him self and he still would not have been a playable 6 drop. hes only decent when u have 2 of them in ur discard pile...but this theme has yet to be given a decent filter card, other than its main mission which requires them to be in ur hand.....and jutsu is just utter garbage a +x jutsu is RARELY ever good/playable and people compare these jutsus to the good ones in the format because these justus have to be able to win the eoj, which most of the time is the game decider, I have seen 1 playable jutsu for this theme so far (idk the name its the 1 the lets u loom at their hand a discard a card.) and thats only good because it locks ur opt out of dropping a legit ninja on their turn.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:59 AM
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r u kidding? its a 6 drop so it has ALOT of competition. On top of that he discards himself immediately???? he could have just not discarded him self and he still would not have been a playable 6 drop. hes only decent when u have 2 of them in ur discard pile...but this theme has yet to be given a decent filter card, other than its main mission which requires them to be in ur hand.....and jutsu is just utter garbage a +x jutsu is RARELY ever good/playable and people compare these jutsus to the good ones in the format because these justus have to be able to win the eoj, which most of the time is the game decider, I have seen 1 playable jutsu for this theme so far (idk the name its the 1 the lets u loom at their hand a discard a card.) and thats only good because it locks ur opt out of dropping a legit ninja on their turn.
Believe it or not, jutsu that don't say "Kill X ninja" can still be useful. And true, without a filter it is difficult. But You need to look at the bigger picture. You can search Hanzo with Ame Orphans and get the turn marker boost. There's plenty of ways to make it a good card. Or you can ignore it and wait until it shows up big. I already have the decklist ready, unless they preview something better for it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:05 AM
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Believe it or not, jutsu that don't say "Kill X ninja" can still be useful. And true, without a filter it is difficult. But You need to look at the bigger picture. You can search Hanzo with Ame Orphans and get the turn marker boost. There's plenty of ways to make it a good card. Or you can ignore it and wait until it shows up big. I already have the decklist ready, unless they preview something better for it.
yea ik jutsus dont need to kill guys.....hence y i said that 1 jutsu is snapped
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:33 AM
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Imma just come in here and say.... Hanzo and the jutsu are trash lol. Period. Deva target promo is a legit better 6 drop than this Hanzo. Period. No matter what deck. And in Swordsman deck, Mifune is clearly a better choice. Not even a question, these two previews are garbage, next please.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:34 AM
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well don't forget you can RFG ANY hanzo, including ones that are not impure res. too bad no hanzo's see any play currently. the jutsu is ok, the weapon deck could be alot better if there was any sort of decent negation for it. The only awesome thing it has going for it right now is for 1 turn you can play them all for free on a chain. But that's it, because if you get negated at any point in your chain, there is no current easy recovery if that happens because alot of the deck seems to rely thrive on chaining the jutsu together and piling on all the damage in one big hit.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:44 AM
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well don't forget you can RFG ANY hanzo, including ones that are not impure res. too bad no hanzo's see any play currently. the jutsu is ok, the weapon deck could be alot better if there was any sort of decent negation for it. The only awesome thing it has going for it right now is for 1 turn you can play them all for free on a chain. But that's it, because if you get negated at any point in your chain, there is no current easy recovery if that happens because alot of the deck seems to rely thrive on chaining the jutsu together and piling on all the damage in one big hit.
This is true. My idea was a mix of the S27 Pain starter and this weapon stuff. Throw in Naraka and Preta so you have some base negation, Ame Orphans for search and turn maker boost, Madara and Spiral of Pain for sacrifice cushioning, and then Gift of Pain to slow your opponent.
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