My suggestions for new restricted list.

[zbkillaz]

I will not be including any of the set 27 cards I think should be hit, Bandai likes to see how things play out for a set normally.


I. Max ZERO Cards (3)

You cannot play ANY copies of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

1) Series #22: Weapons of War – “The 4th Hokage (N-1241)”
2) Series #23: Invasion – “Ink Leech (N-1294)”
3) Series #25: Kage Summit- "Hidan (N-1442)"

II. Max One Cards (6)

You can ONLY use ONE of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

1) Series #22: Weapons of War – “Earth Style Barrier: Earth Dome Prison (J-859)”
2) Series #26: Avengers Wrath-" Ino Yamanaka (Childhood) (N-1491)"

III. Max Two Cards (1)

You can ONLY use TWO of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

1) Series #26: Avengers Wrath-" Art of the raging Lion's Mane (J-956)"
Series #26: Avengers Wrath-" Reverse Tetragram Sealing Jutsu (J-969)"

Noteables- Shikamaru's Decision to two.
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If Bandai just copy pasted this list I don't think many people would mind.

Hidan= Has the same properties as Biscuit but with better stats and a very powerful reinforcement. If the well stat-ed free put in play Jonin guy (geesh) didn't have a well stat-ed BR winning machine that doesn't die..... >.> then I'd have no issues.

Ino- my problem with with is simply there is currently no other draw engine that comes close to what her's. It just starts too early and gives too much advantage at no cost.

I'll let you guys discuss what you think of Lion's Mane and tetragram, but remember to consider the new set 27 into your thought processes.

[killerkimimaro]

HIDAN!? who has ever complained about that card? lol, its good but limit/ban worthy? absolutely not....imo ino isn't the problem, tree summoning is....tree should be banned simple as that. lions mane is good, but its not better than dragon flame so if we drop lions mane, dragon flame needs to be dropped to at least that. shika's D isnt broken its just a good search engine, which every elemnt needs imo...however wind and earth r the only elements with a legit search card. Also I personally have never played against a deck with tetra in it, but people do complain about it, and it is the best jutsu right now....so I can see where u are coming from with that.....just my opinions.

[zbkillaz]

You have to think of Hidan from the perspective of "too much effect for too little cost" He does WAY too much for nothing. proficient free chump blocker, proficient free aggressor, easy reinforcement into a guy who can't die via showdown or damage, 2 chakra to accelerate your battle rewards.

ALL OF THIS comes from a free ninja and I think that is simply just Way too much for FREE how anyone cannot agree with me on that is beyond me.

and please don't give me to "give one battle reward" isn't free. that's a joke cost that rarely every effects how the game is played out.

[Earthbullet]

Originally Posted by zbkillaz

You have to think of Hidan from the perspective of "too much effect for too little cost" He does WAY too much for nothing. proficient free chump blocker, proficient free aggressor, easy reinforcement into a guy who can't die via showdown or damage, 2 chakra to accelerate your battle rewards.

ALL OF THIS comes from a free ninja and I think that is simply just Way too much for FREE how anyone cannot agree with me on that is beyond me.

and please don't give me to "give one battle reward" isn't free. that's a joke cost that rarely every effects how the game is played out.

but you compared him to biscut that had no cost what so ever

[garra362]

Hidan isn't really a problem, but tetragram should be limitied to one if not banned, unless jonin's intervention gets banned instead, because tetragram is more broken than hydro pump, and tetragram can board wipe if it goes off early enough. tree summoning should be limited because it's broken and auto wins you the game as early as t5. I think lion's mane is pretty fair, since having a response isn't too tough by t3.

[BANKAI]

I understand your argument but hidan is fine....it does a lot but the game does not need to be boring. Also tetragram is fine. It has yet to win a thing or be in a single top deck list......that signifies to me its meh...

[ronaldokun]

I agree with limiting spontaneous tree because you literally do nothing all game it gets discarded a couple times then you pick it up with shikamaru when you battle. Tetragram is cool, not too many problems with it because you can just target the ninja and the jutsu is gone.

[killerkimimaro]

Originally Posted by zbkillaz

You have to think of Hidan from the perspective of "too much effect for too little cost" He does WAY too much for nothing. proficient free chump blocker, proficient free aggressor, easy reinforcement into a guy who can't die via showdown or damage, 2 chakra to accelerate your battle rewards.

ALL OF THIS comes from a free ninja and I think that is simply just Way too much for FREE how anyone cannot agree with me on that is beyond me.

and please don't give me to "give one battle reward" isn't free. that's a joke cost that rarely every effects how the game is played out.

I would never be the one to say giving a BR is a legit cost, it is however a cost where as biscuit (which u used as a comparison) doesn't have a cost....

[zbkillaz]

Originally Posted by Earthbullet

but you compared him to biscut that had no cost what so ever

I said the have the same properties. If people's rebuttal is hidan hasn't won or hidan still is fine even after all of his free benefits excuse me 1 BR benefits then that's fine I can respect that. I think it just means we have a different view of exactly how much one card should be able to do which is fine.

tree summoning din't make my list because it requires set up, and it's something that I've personally haven't lost to in a long time, so long as there's no ino there to support the deck and give it massive plus one I don't think revitalize players will have such an easy time getting their end game shenanigans.

[Earthbullet]

Originally Posted by zbkillaz

I said the have the same properties. If people's rebuttal is hidan hasn't won or hidan still is fine even after all of his free benefits excuse me 1 BR benefits then that's fine I can respect that. I think it just means we have a different view of exactly how much one card should be able to do which is fine.

tree summoning din't make my list because it requires set up, and it's something that I've personally haven't lost to in a long time, so long as there's no ino there to support the deck and give it massive plus one I don't think revitalize players will have such an easy time getting their end game shenanigans.

yes because asuma, yamato, naruto, and tenten dont exist right?