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Old 12-02-2012, 06:30 AM
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This is an accurate representation of the Americans who have little taste in music, and art for that matter, and who are ignorant of social media and its ways. The VMA's, among many other Award Shows, are set up by the controllers or presented in a manner that only certain artists win. All the "voting" is just to make the "people" feel involved. I'm not so sorry to say this but, you're one of the 90%.
I am in the 1%
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:39 AM
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This is an accurate representation of the Americans who have little taste in music, and art for that matter, and who are ignorant of social media and its ways. The VMA's, among many other Award Shows, are set up by the controllers or presented in a manner that only certain artists win. All the "voting" is just to make the "people" feel involved. I'm not so sorry to say this but, you're one of the 90%.
So if 4 of 5 dentists recommend oral b then 4000 of 5000 isn't a safe generalization ?
In fact this logic is how our government works applying laws and such. Imagine summoning every American into one place everyday a law needs passing. Its unfortunately why are country can't be a true democracy.

Also to question my taste variety or understanding in music or music industry is a mistake.

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Old 12-02-2012, 08:59 AM
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So if 4 of 5 dentists recommend oral b then 4000 of 5000 isn't a safe generalization ?
In fact this logic is how our government works applying laws and such. Imagine summoning every American into one place everyday a law needs passing. Its unfortunately why are country can't be a true democracy.

Also to question my taste variety or understanding in music or music industry is a mistake.
Mathematically 4/5 is the same thing as 4000/5000 but when you bring into consideration that we are dealing with people, a medium that has hundreds of lurking variables just from utilizing it, then it is not wise to use a generalization.

Also, I don't believe you understand. In most award shoes, the VMA's specifically, the "voters" have very little say; the idea of the winners is preconceived months before the actual event takes place. Your juxtaposing of the American Government and the VMA's Voting System is weak. In music, it is often easy determine the better artist because they are being awarded for what they have done. In politics and government, it is usually not as simple to determine the better bill or candidate because, for the most part, you are being approved or selected for what it or they will do. Hindsight is a task much easier to preform than foresight.

I don't see how it's a "mistake" when you have literally done nothing to support yourself or your argument other than making a bad comparison to government. Not to mention you don't understand the concepts of basic logic.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:03 AM
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Mathematically 4/5 is the same thing as 4000/5000 but when you bring into consideration that we are dealing with people, a medium that has hundreds of lurking variables just from utilizing it, then it is not wise to use a generalization.

Also, I don't believe you understand. In most award shoes, the VMA's specifically, the "voters" have very little say; the idea of the winners is preconceived months before the actual event takes place. Your juxtaposing of the American Government and the VMA's Voting System is weak. In music, it is often easy determine the better artist because they are being awarded for what they have done. In politics and government, it is usually not as simple to determine the better bill or candidate because, for the most part, you are being approved or selected for what it or they will do. Hindsight is a task much easier to preform than foresight.

I don't see how it's a "mistake" when you have literally done nothing to support yourself or your argument other than making a bad comparison to government. Not to mention you don't understand the concepts of basic logic.
hes using spiritomb logic
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:37 AM
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Mathematically 4/5 is the same thing as 4000/5000 but when you bring into consideration that we are dealing with people, a medium that has hundreds of lurking variables just from utilizing it, then it is not wise to use a generalization.

Also, I don't believe you understand. In most award shoes, the VMA's specifically, the "voters" have very little say; the idea of the winners is preconceived months before the actual event takes place. Your juxtaposing of the American Government and the VMA's Voting System is weak. In music, it is often easy determine the better artist because they are being awarded for what they have done. In politics and government, it is usually not as simple to determine the better bill or candidate because, for the most part, you are being approved or selected for what it or they will do. Hindsight is a task much easier to preform than foresight.

I don't see how it's a "mistake" when you have literally done nothing to support yourself or your argument other than making a bad comparison to government. Not to mention you don't understand the concepts of basic logic.
Oh wise one please tell me how award shows truly work. I wanna hear the inner workings. Show me the error of the ways. Cause well before these posts I understood how the vmas work. If votes actually mattered I would've actually voted Taylor swift in that instance. I do wish other artists would've gotten recognition though .
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 AM
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Oh wise one please tell me how award shows truly work. I wanna hear the inner workings. Show me the error of the ways. Cause well before these posts I understood how the vmas work. If votes actually mattered I would've actually voted Taylor swift in that instance. I do wish other artists would've gotten recognition though .
Even your sarcasm is illogical.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:42 AM
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Also I would like to point out that you said that the better artists get awarded.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:46 AM
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Even your sarcasm is illogical.
I only pointed out I know how award shows work and I would've voted taylor swift if I knew it mattered. How is that illogical?
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:48 AM
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Also I would like to point out that you said that the better artists get awarded.
This was in response to your comparison of government to award shows. While both have the "higher-ups" choose a candidate/artist, you were actually correct as far as that goes, the "higher-ups" don't have an accurate idea of popular demand. In the case of music awards, the VMA's especially, they look to reward certain artists over others, with little regard to talent. This may be due to ratings, sponsors, endorsements, and, something that shouldn't be a factor but unfortunately is, race.

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I only pointed out I know how award shows work and I would've voted taylor swift if I knew it mattered. How is that illogical?
Because you were comparing it to the American Government, which is much different than award shows, and then claimed as if you knew what you were talking about.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:49 AM
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Also I would like to point out that you said that the better artists get awarded.
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I only pointed out I know how award shows work and I would've voted taylor swift if I knew it mattered. How is that illogical?
double post, you've been reported
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