2EZ Forums Article - Genre's Unlimited Rogue List 2012-2013

[kirax7]

"I want to slow the format down."
that's the point! i hope Tylar makes a Rogue List with this idea.

- i like your Rogue Genre, but i would like to see Anbus at 0: the format never slowdown with this guys at 3.
if i want, i have a lot of chance to draw them in early game (JLDC, Paradise, just draw them). ok, there are so many response but that cards has many response too: you play Miroku, Heart to Heart, Criyng in the Vain, etc.? well i have 3xHina in my deck..you have Ino, Shimon in your deck? well, i have a Comparative Strenght, Kigiri.
- Biscuit needs to go at 0 too, for the same reason.
- Ban Current and Petals, and Tears.
- agree with Kushina, Leech, and 4TimeFaster, but Kushina should rest.
- agree with Reanimation, Byakugan and Prison.
- Puppet Master Jutsu is op: you can play it in early game with Kankuro and Kankuro Tenacity, and, with Sakura ADP or lucksack, you can put in play a lot of Puppets. i don't know about that.
- the other cards are good for me, op, but good xD maybe 4th+remotion jutsu should be a problem or Four Pillars.
- why Comparative needs to get banned? that's fine.


so Tylar, you have into one Article, all Unlimited problem cards. Just take 5 minutes to update the official Rogue List and give us another enjoyable format for this game befare set 26 comes out, please

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by spiritomb

I think the list is fine the way it is. Though gradually over the years as the game evolves, I'd like to see the list disappear. That's not gonna happen anytime soon though. My point though is I think ur getting to ban happy. Learn to adapt. Granted this would be easier if there was more large tournaments nationwide.

A pipe dream in unlimited. Block can one day potentially have no rogue list, we only have 3 cards on it right now, which is amazing.
but since unlimited will forever have certain cards that just never should have existed, it's not happening.

[Genre]

True Allies is definitely a power deck, and Kakashi True Allies is one of the cards that may eventually hit the list at 1. However, cards like Sealing Barrier can completely end the True Allies deck (if you hit it successfully with Naruto as a target). Chidori Stream also really hurts the deck if Naruto hasn't reinforced. Don't forget Sabiru and Comp Strength to stop their tutoring...

[OneWingedAngel]

If the Abus aren't banned then unlimited isn't worth playing. Even without Tactics it just become a luck sack get of who can draw them first. I don't understand why Tylar won't ban them. It makes no sense at all.

[Seventh Path]

Originally Posted by crudematter

Comparative strengths with kakashi true allies is broken.
It gets the hina treatment, kakashi gets it back and its in play again straight away.
This is *the* most maddening thing in the game for me.

I would be sad to see 4 times faster go.
I think it's fair because both players get the boost.
I've always done well out of my opponent playing it.

Comparative Strengths also slows down an incredibly fast format. In that situation is Kakashi TA not the problem?

4 Times Faster to play Target DevaPath. Bottom deck their next drop. Broken

[Genre]

Originally Posted by Seventh Path

Comparative Strengths also slows down an incredibly fast format. In that situation is Kakashi TA not the problem?

4 Times Faster to play Target DevaPath. Bottom deck their next drop. Broken

Play Naruto Reliance --> Search for 4 Times Faster --> Play it --> REINFORCE into sage mode Naruto on t3 (and, if you want, squad your Gaara 0 drop and Temari 1 drop to Gaara Temari)...

More Broken.

[kirax7]

-> Sage Mode into Five Pronged Seal xD

t2 -> 4 Times Faster -> 4th Kazekage..
t2 -> 4 Time Faster -> Itachi Inferno..
t3 -> 4 Time Faster -> Sasori Puppet Mode after some Cop..
t3 -> 4 Time Faster -> Sasuke&Orochimaru..

well..i can continue with Broken cards xD

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by Seventh Path

4 Times Faster to play Target DevaPath. Bottom deck their next drop. Broken

Originally Posted by Genre

Play Naruto Reliance --> Search for 4 Times Faster --> Play it --> REINFORCE into sage mode Naruto on t3 (and, if you want, squad your Gaara 0 drop and Temari 1 drop to Gaara Temari)...

More Broken.

Originally Posted by kirax7

-> Sage Mode into Five Pronged Seal xD

t2 -> 4 Times Faster -> 4th Kazekage..
t2 -> 4 Time Faster -> Itachi Inferno..
t3 -> 4 Time Faster -> Sasori Puppet Mode after some Cop..
t3 -> 4 Time Faster -> Sasuke&Orochimaru..

well..i can continue with Broken cards xD

ALLLL good reasons why this needs banning. ESPECIALLY bolded ones!

[crudematter]

Opponent plays naruto reliance then 4 times faster and ends up with sage mode.

I then get the boost, play chibi sasori, use its effect to squad into sasori deidara.
Play end of the immortal, then at the end of my organize phase use sasori+deidara effect to wipe their field.

It's a double edged sword. It's fair.

[Shino'sDad]

Originally Posted by crudematter

Opponent plays naruto reliance then 4 times faster and ends up with sage mode.

I then get the boost, play chibi sasori, use its effect to squad into sasori deidara.
Play end of the immortal, then at the end of my organize phase use sasori+deidara effect to wipe their field.

It's a double edged sword. It's fair.

Unless the person using Four Times Faster went first, in which case their opponent is only being moved up to Turn 6.