Why can't it just be Obito?

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by Akatsukidude101

I am definitely for the idea of it being Izuna, he fits the bill on all of the presented theory prerequisites; timeline, motive, knowledge, ability, emotions.

Tobi was iritated/shocked when kabutochimaru showed off the madara coffin.

Izuna was present for all the founding of the leaf and uchiha/senju dispute.

He was on tier with madara in power level.

His clan gave up on his brother and the war/power struggle for the leaf.

And imo, anyone who can awaken mangekyou sharingan has gotta be pretty smart.

Plus theres almost no backstory/evidence disproving him at this point.

And if the post in the other section wasnt a lie....Kishi said its him lol

Dude trust me, I want that as well. a hell of a plot twist if it were to end up being the "younger brother" was the ******* of the group and actually ruled it, but trust me, that conflicts with a lot more than either of the other 2 theories. (Unless Izanami/nagi are involved. those two techniques still sort of confuse me)
also nope, post was totally faked. Some guy wanted to troll his best friend, ended up sucking in some idiots (IE me) as well) * embarrassed smiley*

[OC_Powers]

I dont think any answer we get is going to be good :/
No reason for it to actually be Obito.
Makes sense for his body to be a vessel, Oro style. But if he had body swap, why couldnt he do Edo Tensei himself?
Mask should have just revealed Orochimaru lol.
They'll probably troll us and go to Kage vs Madara fight on Wed xD

[MJM]

Originally Posted by garra362

I feel tobirama is definitely involved for 3 reasons:
1. He invented impure world resurrection, and that's just not something you would expect from a "good guy"
2. We never got a real back story on him (besides the wiki, that not everyone reads) so I feel there has to be something left for him to do before we get one
3. He's water

I doubt he's tobi because he got sealed with the reaper death seal, so he shouldn't even have a soul to take obits body. I ll also admit that it makes no since for tobi to be obito, but I do like the idea of somebody using the same jutsu as orochimaru and body hopping so that obits body is just the latest vessel.
And the Sasuke sarutobi thing sounds cool, but he was never mentioned in the manga so I can't imagine kishi making a character tobi who most people have never heard of.

Now I kinda hope they go to a Sasuke story so I can find out the guy who knows everything.

Sasuke Sarutobi was mentioned in Chapter 500. As for the water thing... That seems like a CCG bias.

Originally Posted by Akatsukidude101

The second hokage was revived by orochimaru during the original series and reaper death sealed then, i dont think it was him.

The Second was the creator of that Jutsu, he's bound to be able to release it and fake his sealing or something, but this is just me going off on a limb.

[Suna.kills.you]

If its possible to be an orphan Uchiha and still be taken in by the rest of the clan then until wednesday, Obito is the son/grandson of Izuna madara/izuna and im going to call it a day. that^ would be the coolest way to keep him as obito with no more plot twists.

[W1N5T0N]

One fall out on it being the second hokage is he was taken into the reaper death seal making his soul stuck in it so he cant be in the real world

[Shino'sDad]

The whole reason it should just be Obito is a reason that a lot of people are using as a point against it Just being Obito; the fact that young Obito and Naruto are both so similar in everything they do, say, and feel.

This manga, at it's barest and most base, is about a kid who has gone through hell his entire life, but refuses to give up, and has a dream that he won't let anyone get in the way of. It isn't about wars, or Ninjas, or Jutsu, or anything like that. It's about the growth of Naruto Uzumaki.

What does this have to do with Obito then? He is the perfect person to place opposite of Naruto. Throughout the manga, Naruto has encountered people who share similar qualities in him one way or another, though who usually have gone bad for one reason or another. Gaara shared a similar past to Naruto, though much worse, and became a villain because of it. Of course, Naruto was able to redeem him. The same can be said for Nagato, who's intentions were peace, but at a terrible cost.

Unfortunately, this simply means that Obito is another character who's intent is something they seem to think is Good, but ultimately seems bad because of the venue they choose to take in order to reach that point. Obito's sacrifice was ultimately in vain, Rin still died in the end, and that made him bitter. Was that the sole reason? No, more things had to happened, and I think we'll learn more this upcoming chapter. Obito is Naruto gone wrong, grown bitter, and willing to do whatever, no matter the consequences, in order to achieve his own personal peace. No more wars, no more fighting, no friends dying. Moon's Eye Plan is Human Instrumentality, the joining of all people into a single peaceful dream where pain no longer exists, and everyone is happy. Naruto has learned though through Nagato and others that pain is a necessary part of living. You can't have just the good and not any bad.

[Chidori]

Originally Posted by MJM

Speaking of Sarutobi, where the **** has Konohamaru been.

He's busy training to infuse his rasengan with elemental chakra.

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by Suna.kills.you

If its possible to be an orphan Uchiha and still be taken in by the rest of the clan then until wednesday, Obito is the son/grandson of Izuna madara/izuna and im going to call it a day. that^ would be the coolest way to keep him as obito with no more plot twists.

no because it doesn't solve any of the plot twists listed on the first page.

Originally Posted by Shino'sDad

The whole reason it should just be Obito is a reason that a lot of people are using as a point against it Just being Obito; the fact that young Obito and Naruto are both so similar in everything they do, say, and feel.

This manga, at it's barest and most base, is about a kid who has gone through hell his entire life, but refuses to give up, and has a dream that he won't let anyone get in the way of. It isn't about wars, or Ninjas, or Jutsu, or anything like that. It's about the growth of Naruto Uzumaki.

What does this have to do with Obito then? He is the perfect person to place opposite of Naruto. Throughout the manga, Naruto has encountered people who share similar qualities in him one way or another, though who usually have gone bad for one reason or another. Gaara shared a similar past to Naruto, though much worse, and became a villain because of it. Of course, Naruto was able to redeem him. The same can be said for Nagato, who's intentions were peace, but at a terrible cost.

Unfortunately, this simply means that Obito is another character who's intent is something they seem to think is Good, but ultimately seems bad because of the venue they choose to take in order to reach that point. Obito's sacrifice was ultimately in vain, Rin still died in the end, and that made him bitter. Was that the sole reason? No, more things had to happened, and I think we'll learn more this upcoming chapter. Obito is Naruto gone wrong, grown bitter, and willing to do whatever, no matter the consequences, in order to achieve his own personal peace. No more wars, no more fighting, no friends dying. Moon's Eye Plan is Human Instrumentality, the joining of all people into a single peaceful dream where pain no longer exists, and everyone is happy. Naruto has learned though through Nagato and others that pain is a necessary part of living. You can't have just the good and not any bad.

Man, that's depressing, because it makes so much dang sense and sounds exactly like Kishi's writing style to this point. *sigh*
in 2 days we will know.

[Earthbullet]

Originally Posted by allanime01

(allanime note: You know what character meets and greets all this? Tobimara Senju

but wasnt he brought back by orochimaru and sealed by the 3rd?

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by Earthbullet

but wasnt he brought back by orochimaru and sealed by the 3rd?

I kept saying, three times at first then just kinda quit, I'm under the impression he used the same seal as Madara to break the Edo contract. Then, slipped out past the sound 4's barrier (since in our theory Tobimara + Orochi had been plotting together) leaving a proxy behind to get sealed. This allows Tobimara to roam freely. Immortal, full of chakra, and continuing to plan.
That simple, but at the same time who knows.