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Old 08-13-2012, 04:53 AM
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i would say is worth it but if ur afraid of the br problems u can always run aoi
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:39 AM
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by your logic, then then we will forever have multi-element cards, which will grow more and more until pretty much every card printed is 2-3 elements. Tylar wanted to promote multi-elements in the LAST block cycle, for that meta. Thats why Kages, Missions, and Jutsus had the three symbols, because at the peak of that block cycle and meta, it became possible to run not just 2, but 3 element decks.
Set 26 is now the "foundation" to start next block. It's focusing on building these mechanics, which next sets will implement into future better cards. Thats just good game design logic. If i'm wrong, show me proof. any proof. Even a well known user agreeing with you. Don't call out someone as "assuming things" unless you can back up your own words.
It's all down to the designer. It's not about the whole set being multi-element, but the meta providing the tools needed to build multi-element decks. If the designer does it carefully, it will be balanced. If on the other hand you have a set where 95 of the cards are single elements, as this set seems to be, it really hurts multi-element deck building and opposes the idea.

Unless Tylar himself states that he intended set 25 to provide multi-element tools for multi-element decks just for 2 months of block format, and then focus towards mono-element meta, I won't buy it. It simply doesn't make any sense and he himself stated he wants multi-elements before. Could it be someone from the top saying otherwise, I have no idea.

And I don't need to back up anything by my own words, I'm going along by what has been claimed by the designer a few months ago and by seeing what is actually happening now.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:38 AM
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It's all down to the designer. It's not about the whole set being multi-element, but the meta providing the tools needed to build multi-element decks. If the designer does it carefully, it will be balanced. If on the other hand you have a set where 95 of the cards are single elements, as this set seems to be, it really hurts multi-element deck building and opposes the idea.

Unless Tylar himself states that he intended set 25 to provide multi-element tools for multi-element decks just for 2 months of block format, and then focus towards mono-element meta, I won't buy it. It simply doesn't make any sense and he himself stated he wants multi-elements before. Could it be someone from the top saying otherwise, I have no idea.

And I don't need to back up anything by my own words, I'm going along by what has been claimed by the designer a few months ago and by seeing what is actually happening now.
Set 22, the very start set for this block rotation which tylar kept in mind, had a whopping 7 dual element cards, out of 119. Are you gonna tell me that's a bad set? Set 23 kicked it up to 15. 24 and Tp4 increased it a little further, and then set 25, the "end" of the blueprint so to speak, had over half the set being multi element, with the introduction of Tri element to FURTHER multi element decks. i'm pretty sure the fact that most of this set is mono-element, doesn't mean we won't see many dual element decks.

the overall design is still pushing for multi-element, just not this set particularly. If you think that EVERY set needs to, then you can refer to my post you quoted, it will lead to just that. On the other hand starting slowly and then working in more dual element over time is a much better plan.

also you are correct, you don't have to back up your own words, but that mnakes it harder to believe you when you A) quote others like you are saying here or B) make any sort of claim. Backing up your words/arguments is a pretty key point in winning any debates or making any points
Not that you'd know about either one.
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