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Old 05-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 is offline
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How come no one realizes that once Itachi and sasuke have Kabuto uncast the jutsu that itachi will drop dead again... thus Sasuke raging because Itachi didn't answer any of his questions and Sasuke turning evil again.
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:20 PM
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How come no one realizes that once Itachi and sasuke have Kabuto uncast the jutsu that itachi will drop dead again... thus Sasuke raging because Itachi didn't answer any of his questions and Sasuke turning evil again.
Maybe because Itachi was brought back with edo tensei and he will just keep reviving until he is sealed...
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:27 PM
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Maybe because Itachi was brought back with edo tensei and he will just keep reviving until he is sealed...
but if Kabuto uncast the jutsu they are done ..... which is why they can't just kill him .. the FWORDING point is to put him in Genjutsu and trick him into uncasting it..


do you even read the same manga as teh me?
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:44 PM
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Anyone else notice how itachi was going blind? So If Kabuto waits the jutsu out, he ll win
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:33 PM
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Anyone else notice how itachi was going blind? So If Kabuto waits the jutsu out, he ll win
Actually Itachi doesn't need sight being the S rank ninja he is. Kabuto is completely blind and still fight...
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:12 PM
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Itachi used it, therefore Sasuke instantly has mastery of it
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far and beyond what Itachi can do
not true. and i'll get to why with tsukuyomi down there


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What, Tsukuyomi drains your chakra and leaves you vulnerable Itachi? Here let Sasuke use it 5 times in a 3 minute period
sasuke version is also jank in comparison. i recall him not being able to control time while in tsukuyomi and i dont think its been shown that he's fixed that issue. but if he has its probably because of EMS, in which case his eyes are better than itachi's, so at the very least theres valid-ish reasoning for his being as good/better. when he first got it, it was not "far beyond what Itachi can do". it was actually sub-par

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What, Amaterasu needs to be sparingly by Itachi so he doesn't go blind. Here, let Sasuke use it more than 15 times in 2 hours.
and notice how he went blind and needed the eye transplant. its not like there were no consequences for him over using his mangekyou.

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What Susano'o is the your ultimate technique that tooks years of practice with the Magenkyo to use. Let Sasuke use it in 1/4 of the time with zero drawback, and even let him make his own, better version.
...It took him years of practice? That seems made up.

Other than that...yeah i got nothing for susanoo. For a jutsu that supposedly drains life away, he uses that sucker quite a bit with seemingly no consequences.

It'd be nice if he, or someone else, mentioned his stamina lowering or his body getting weaker or something. When Kakashi uses Kamui, chances are he's going to the hospital. When naruto over used the fox cloak way back when, Sakura mentioned he was healing slower. Not to mention just using the cloak put his friends in danger, which we again actually got to see when he attacked Sakura.

sasuke looks at consequences and gives them the finger. the only one that actually happened (the blindness) was fixed immediately and now mangekyou's one universal drawback no longer applies to him, and he has more super powers

Though on the note of his being better, would disagree. sure has has a crossbow, and now a fiery sword of doom. but itachi's has that yata mirror and totsuka sword.


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Actually Itachi doesn't need sight being the S rank ninja he is. Kabuto is completely blind and still fight...
yeah, THAT has nothing to do with him being in sage mode. nope. its definitely just because he's an awesome ninja. cuz, y'know, sages cant sense whats going on around them or anything.

Now, I wouldnt be surprised if Itachi could fight at least decently blind, i mean, he's Itachi. I'm fairly certain "mad skillz" is his middle name. But for the sake of argument, I would say that for ninja such as the uchiha and hyuuga who are so used to relying on their prodigious eye sight, that not only taking their eye jutsu away, but their eyesight in general, would be pretty crippling.

Though i doubt he'll go blind and heres why. edo tensei constantly regenerates damage...I imagine that would include damage to his eyes. so edo tensei is,a side from the cool new jutsu, the equivalent of having EMS. all the mangekyou, none of the consequences. especially susanoo haha "oh no, my life force is being sucked away. whatever will i do. oh, wait, im already dead".
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:47 PM
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but if Kabuto uncast the jutsu they are done ..... which is why they can't just kill him .. the FWORDING point is to put him in Genjutsu and trick him into uncasting it..


do you even read the same manga as teh me?
My bad, when you said "the jutsu" I didn't realize you were referring to Edo Tensei. I read your post completely differently from what you were saying.

Are we meant to believe that releasing the jutsu will instantly kill everyone that was revived and turn their bodies back to dirt piles and corpses? I kinda had the idea in mind that they would lose the revive-healing effect but still be "alive" until they were killed or found inner peace (like Sasori).
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:44 PM
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I'm not even convinced that there will still be a Naruto vs. Sasuke fight. Think about the guy writing the story and the "vertical drop" you just described. The way i see it, unless kabuto actually manages to (re)kill Itachi, don't you think Itachi is going to set Sasuke straight? If sasuke gets the discussion he was pushing Itachi for, itachi is going to explain his reasons for everything and convince sasuke to defend konoha. Then Itachi will release the same way Sasori did, because he's finally at peace. I think it's possible that it's going to be Naruto+Sasuke vs. Tobi, and we'll never get the epic rematch we've been expecting since shippuden started.
I would not be surprised with a Scry-ed style of they team up and beat Tobi, then fight each other.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:02 AM
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yeah, THAT has nothing to do with him being in sage mode. nope. its definitely just because he's an awesome ninja. cuz, y'know, sages cant sense whats going on around them or anything.

Now, I wouldnt be surprised if Itachi could fight at least decently blind, i mean, he's Itachi. I'm fairly certain "mad skillz" is his middle name. But for the sake of argument, I would say that for ninja such as the uchiha and hyuuga who are so used to relying on their prodigious eye sight, that not only taking their eye jutsu away, but their eyesight in general, would be pretty crippling.

Though i doubt he'll go blind and heres why. edo tensei constantly regenerates damage...I imagine that would include damage to his eyes. so edo tensei is,a side from the cool new jutsu, the equivalent of having EMS. all the mangekyou, none of the consequences. especially susanoo haha "oh no, my life force is being sucked away. whatever will i do. oh, wait, im already dead".
i think you are reading to much into it.

it regenerates the body when the life is at risk.. idk how it reacts to EMS or anything but as for the eyes


the eyes are just like a kunai they are a ninja tool.. Its the person not the tool winning the battle
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:16 AM
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My bad, when you said "the jutsu" I didn't realize you were referring to Edo Tensei. I read your post completely differently from what you were saying.

Are we meant to believe that releasing the jutsu will instantly kill everyone that was revived and turn their bodies back to dirt piles and corpses? I kinda had the idea in mind that they would lose the revive-healing effect but still be "alive" until they were killed or found inner peace (like Sasori).
Trollolol. I figured it was that because i was like... uhhh? lol

we have seen with seen kabuto uncast the jutsu by summoning the caskets and returning them so i assume it kills them lol.
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