Play Errors at Large Events

[yodaz]

I was wondering how many play errors people see their opponents making, on average (round down) at large events (SJC+), where you could potentially rule shark the opponent and effectively win the game (either by game loss or not being able to/forced to do something). Also, how often do you call the judge in these situations?

I feel like it happens about once per event for me and i'm 50 50 on calling judge. Regret it no matter what i do every time .

edit: first time making a poll on here, wanted a fifth option of 4+, but i guess the last one should be 3+ :/.

[Shino'sDad]

Originally Posted by yodaz

I was wondering how many play errors people see their opponents making, on average at large events (SJC+), where someone could potentially rule shark someone else and effectively win the game (either by game loss or not being able to/forced to do something). Also, how often do you call the judge in these situations?

I had a feeling that this was going to come up. I feel that people tend to only call people on small stuff when they think they can get away with it.

For example, Never Ever try and tell a TA member that they don't have their turn marker on the proper number, because, Whoooooo, bad times.

All joking aside:

Missions go on the table and handcost is paid, Don't Touch The God Damm Mission until it resolves.

Whenever you activate an effect, make sure you speak clearly, because if you flip that card with KNS before I can announce I have a Dehydration, I will murder you.

Do not Throw BRs at me until I tell you I am proccessing that Team for Showdown.

Keep your cards above the table

Spread your chakra out so I can see what the hell is in it

I know more about the rules of this game than you, I'm sorry.

[world of pein]

Originally Posted by Shino'sDad

I had a feeling that this was going to come up. I feel that people tend to only call people on small stuff when they think they can get away with it.

For example, Never Ever try and tell a TA member that they don't have their turn marker on the proper number, because, Whoooooo, bad times.

All joking aside:

Missions go on the table and handcost is paid, Don't Touch The God Damm Mission until it resolves.

Whenever you activate an effect, make sure you speak clearly, because if you flip that card with KNS before I can announce I have a Dehydration, I will murder you.

Do not Throw BRs at me until I tell you I am proccessing that Team for Showdown.

Keep your cards above the table

Spread your chakra out so I can see what the hell is in it

I know more about the rules of this game than you, I'm sorry.

i really lol'ed. Well done!

ill keep these in mind

[Big Boy]

Yodaz, you still beat me but i still had to "Rule Shark" you for searching your deck while i have Shino S (At gencon the highest event) out but I feel that only changing the game state should result in game losses but at the thing in the other thread, I always just lay both my mission and hand cost in chakra, which if someone said i didnt play a mission i would flip the **** out, cuz almost everyone does it.

[yodaz]

Originally Posted by Shino'sDad

For example, Never Ever try and tell a TA member that they don't have their turn marker on the proper number, because, Whoooooo, bad times.

I was thinking about commenting on this, but perhaps i'm better off leaving this one buried.

[JDragon]

For missions, as long as the intent is clear that the mission is being played, I don't care how it's played.

(ex: someone says "Respective Dreams" while first placing a Pledge and then the Dreams into the chakra - it's clear that they're playing Dreams and should not be penalized for shortcutting)

[Sasuke of the desert]

i say about 2 but i dont call the judge cause im the opposite of a mook.

[General StarFox]

Originally Posted by yodaz

I was thinking about commenting on this, but perhaps i'm better off leaving this one buried.

Hmmmm? Please do tell

[General StarFox]

Originally Posted by JDragon

For missions, as long as the intent is clear that the mission is being played, I don't care how it's played.

(ex: someone says "Respective Dreams" while first placing a Pledge and then the Dreams into the chakra - it's clear that they're playing Dreams and should not be penalized for shortcutting)

Agreed. As long as a player does not change the state of the game to the point of no return only warnings should be suffice.

[yodaz]

Well, in my experience, the only things that give game losses ARE changes in the game state. Its a pretty broad and catch all term though. For example, I do not personally believe that searching your deck when your not supposed to is a change in the game state. However, one could argue that knowing that x card is in your deck is by definition an unfair advantage/change in the game state (you now know something new).

In the case with the missions, its more an issue that someone should not need to constantly be saying "wait" and "who's the user of that jutsu?", as it implies that you could have a response. Perhaps more importantly, you should not be able to "take back" something after you do it. Its impossible for a judge to ascertain if a player really meant to play the mission or was trying to take back a misplay where he charged the card and then realized he needed it for the mission. The same idea applies for just putting both the mission and the card into your chakra (especially without saying anything first). There's also the issue that if you are actually playing the mission and it is in your chakra, you are misrepresenting the game state, as if it is in your chakra, it implies that it has already resolved.