The Fourth Hokage

[Nigashi_tatsuma]

Originally Posted by Souseiki

Will you stop complaining, kid? Every time I get on the forums, you seem to be complaining about something. Just shut up.

On topic, the 4th Hokage is definitely a powerful card, but it is not broken in anyway whatsoever. Obviously you've never used the card yourself in a competitive format, or else you wouldn't be saying such obvious things.

Reality: Iruka and Seven Swords Dance will not always be in your hand, if you even play with those cards. You are losing two cards in your hand, which is a major disadvantage, especially when the 4th is so susceptible to jutsu, or with healing effects, making him useless. It's not a card you just throw down. Sometimes it's not worth it. You have to be smart. Now I know that's a hard concept, but I'm sure you can grasp it.

Secondly, Water and Earth are Teir One decks, so I don't know where you are getting this. "Play Lightning or die," bull**** from. Stop complaining and actually take the time to look at different elements. **** scrub.

tl;dr: OP is a scrub, and the 4th is not broken.

Bad kid is bad/ >_>

[yagermeister]

Originally Posted by Big Boy

So, your calling me a scrub, while my track record is far from impressive, I have 1 top at a SJC, probably far more than you, as you have 0. Also, a lot of people associate me with the "Good" players of the game, so your point is invalid that I'm a scrub.

I don't really have to explain myself to you, BUT in this format Lightning seems like the front runner, as Zero said, it may be wrong but if you can't see that then your blind.

tl;dr: You're the scrub and the point of the thread was to also point out the rediculous prices of the 4th, If you can GRASP THAT?

It is not play lightning or die. there are a variety of decks that can compete well now. But I agree that $35 is too high for the 4th. He should be $15 at most.

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by Nigashi_tatsuma

Bad kid is bad/ >_>

Yeah, do you even get that kid, whatever man he can think what he wants.

[Squee99]

Originally Posted by Big Boy

It's clearly the best card in format, I don't see how its 35$ for a card where, the secondary market is terrible, no card in this game should be over 25. So, now its "Play Lightning or Die" and for some people it isnt possible for some people. Nobody should go to any higher level event unless they bring there 200$ deck and hope someone doesn't steal it.

Your logic is so flawed. People just don't think or create decks well enough anymore I guess. I garuntee their are at least 2 playable elements that beat the crap out of lightning that will cost you less then $100 to make. People just complain too much instead of going to the drawing board and making decks, trolls gonna troll I guess.

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by yagermeister

It is not play lightning or die. there are a variety of decks that can compete well now. But I agree that $35 is too high for the 4th. He should be $15 at most.

Yeah the price is completely rediculous, and if tested and wins SJC after SJC then its stupid, I agree that we don't know the meta/tiers but lightning clearyly is the front runner and imo i feel like i play at a disadvantage because they can easily ov at any time with paper bomb, 4th, 7SD.

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by Squee99

Your logic is so flawed. People just don't think or create decks well enough anymore I guess. I garuntee their are at least 2 playable elements that beat the crap out of lightning that will cost you less then $100 to make. People just complain too much instead of going to the drawing board and making decks, trolls gonna troll I guess.

I have an opinon, and if you don't think lightning is clearly the front runner than w/e, Earth, Water, Rush Variants are all tier 1.5, but have a disadvantage against Lightning. Earth has probably the best chance to beat it with its early game jutsus, but thats also very expensive 120+ easy.

[OneWingedAngel]

Originally Posted by Nigashi_tatsuma

Bad kid is bad/ >_>

The only bad players are the ones who think Forth is broken. I don't even think he's that good. I've been running lightning for a while and took him out because he never really helped. I find running big early game guys like Sea Monster help more. Kisuke is also good since he comes back once. I've never had any issue with him at all.

[Squee99]

Originally Posted by Big Boy

I have an opinon, and if you don't think lightning is clearly the front runner than w/e, Earth, Water, Rush Variants are all tier 1.5, but have a disadvantage against Lightning. Earth has probably the best chance to beat it with its early game jutsus, but thats also very expensive 120+ easy.

Void and Water beat lightning... Void is the cheapest deck i've ever seen, the only card that's over 3 dollars is almighty push. Water people just completly disregard because EoTS is gone? lol, what a joke. The reason these two decks beat lightning. They have sustain, they aren't flashy early game but late game they become almost impossible to overcome. Lightning is fast but you really won't get past 6 BRs against either of these decks if built/played correctly. I think this format is very balanced and people just need something to Q.Q about. It's time to duct tape the mouth shut and accept that the format is fair and just play.

I know this is a hard concept for most players to grasp and it will likely change in a set or two but for now naruto is a balanced card game for the first time in years.

[Squee99]

Originally Posted by OneWingedAngel

The only bad players are the ones who think Forth is broken. I don't even think he's that good. I've been running lightning for a while and took him out because he never really helped. I find running big early game guys like Sea Monster help more. Kisuke is also good since he comes back once. I've never had any issue with him at all.

Sorry for the double post.... but this guy... he knows.

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by Squee99

Void and Water beat lightning... Void is the cheapest deck i've ever seen, the only card that's over 3 dollars is almighty push. Water people just completly disregard because EoTS is gone? lol, what a joke. The reason these two decks beat lightning. They have sustain, they aren't flashy early game but late game they become almost impossible to overcome. Lightning is fast but you really won't get past 6 BRs against either of these decks if built/played correctly. I think this format is very balanced and people just need something to Q.Q about. It's time to duct tape the mouth shut and accept that the format is fair and just play.

I know this is a hard concept for most players to grasp and it will likely change in a set or two but for now naruto is a balanced card game for the first time in years.

I was mostly QQing about the prices of cards, but thats fine, i would play cookie cutter lightning and it would be very hard to lose, but I dont have the money because im a broke *** *****.