Scumbag Bandai

[pyrot53]

A week ago Bandai introduced to us a new policy. It was met with much dismay by many players. Nevertheless Bandai continued to believe that the decision they made was the right one. I'm here to present the several reasons as to why their new system is completely illogical and a detriment to the game.

Let's start by examining the new distribution of prizing. Here
Below I have added the amount of prizing, in boxes, that each level will receive.
Here
Now, Bandai has given us more numbers to work with. They posted the store "Levels" and locations Here.
To make it easier I will give you a breakdown of what the levels stack up to
Level 1: 33
Level 2: 12
Level 3: 4
Level 4: 1
Level 5: 1
Level 6: 0
Level (Blank): 1 (Another PRIME example of how unprofessional, unskilled, and under qualified the workers for this company are)
Total: 52
Number of Chunins now: 52
Number of Chunins during 4th Quarter: 40 Despite Andy's inability to count up to 40, there were still 40

Originally Posted by texans07

That being said the number of stores hosting Chunins has increased from 37 stores

Source
As is evident, there is a huge gap between level 3 (The amount of prizing we are accustomed to for chunins) and level 4. However, the amount of prizing for first place that Chunins previously received is only available to level 4 and above. This is ridiculous. Only 2 people will receive the same amount of prizing for a tournament where 40 people used to. For those 38 other stores that just got their prizing for first place cut in half why on earth would you expect more players to want to start playing in that area? You cannot punish stores that are trying their hardest to keep the game alive and expect them to continue their support. Essentially, this makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Not exactly in regards to currency, but to the amount of attendance they will receive now. If an area is already obtaining high numbers for locals they do not need to be receiving greater prizing. If another area is subsequently obtaining less numbers for locals, they should not receive less prizing if growth of this game is your intention. I do not understand how anyone could believe the contrary to be true. It simply does not make sense. (Occupy Bandai, anyone?)

At the moment, there are only 12 locations that are receiving the same amount of product from Bandai, 2 locations that will have more prizing, and 45 locations with less.

Bandai has justified this new policy by stating that more locations will be added. To discuss further how idiotic this plan is, lets look at some of the additions; 3 have been added to California, 2 to Indiana, 2 to Michigan, 2 to Ohio and 4 to Florida as the states that have gained more than 1 additional Chunin.

4/6 California locations are Level 1
2/3 Indiana locations are level 1
3/3 Ohio locations are level 1
3/6 Florida locations are level 1

3/3 Michigan locations are level 2 - Which is still essentially the EXACT same prizing as level 1

People WILL not travel for a Level 1 Chunin. The payout to first place is not worth it. However people did travel reasonable distances for original Chunins. Instead of 4 level 1s in California why not have 2 additional regular sized chunins? Same goes for just about ever place. The priniciple here is, essentially, that you (Bandai and whomever makes these decisions) are spreading the wealth too thin. Nobody is going to travel for 5 50$ tournaments however if there is 1 $250 tournament, many people will attend from various areas. People are now pressured into attending locals. They can no longer happily take just a couple days off play in 1 or 2 locals then be granted the gift that was a quarterly Chunin. And because other commitments are most likely going to take priority over Naruto CCG, they will gradually become less interested with nothing more than a quarterly box tournament to look forward to.

Number of boxes given out for Quarter 4 Chunins: 240
Number of boxes to be given out for Quarter 1 Chunins: 249

I am POSITIVE that if you take 2 of level 1 stores and consolidate those into one tournament that the populous would be much more accepting and you would be giving out less product. The prize structure appears that absolutely no thought process was put behind it and you didnt even look at the total amount of boxes going out. Jump from 6 to more than double? Logical.

Also, what exactly is the point to distributing a box worth of product to people who make top 16? Nobody strives for that spot. I believe that most people would rather look forward to a large grand prize than a tiny prize you get if you go 2-3. Most stores generally give out a pack with entry fee as well, or packs to those who do not top 8. An entry fee that really is not warranted now that prizing for first is 50% of what it was. Along with the fact that SRs are going to be distributed terribly and 2nd place doesnt even get sealed product. The people that do end up there attend the tournament based on its prestige and for the exposure to a larger tournament environment, neither of those 2 qualities does this plan facilitate.

To top it off, what was wrong with Chunin structure before?

There was very little, if any, complaining done about how Chunins were structured before. People were, however, concerned about how the game was doing as a whole. And in order to achieve a better local turnout you decide to, essentially, threaten and take away our privileges that we previously had until we meet your "standards". That is ridiculous. If the goal of this plan was to start digging your grave early, you definitely have accomplished just that.

I urge you review your awful plan and come up with a new one that does not punish areas for not doing as well as you had hoped, or revert back to the previous plan that you have been using for the last 5 years that extremely few people had a problem with.

[Genre]

Good thread with good citations and logic. I agree.

What Bandai needs to do (if they are to cut back on product for prizing) is do the following:

Create CHUNIN-KIT-ONLY prizing such as special promos (maybe alt art / alt foiling for pre-existing cards) or special playmats. People would very likely go out to fight for these, as they'd be valuable and sought after (especially if Bandai only awards them to top 8 placers only). Why not? Easy partial solution to a problem.

[PsychoKarin]

Bandai just wants this game to die. Has been evident for a long time. But before they go, they need to hoard as much money from the gullible as possible.

This is just sad at this point.

[tagout]

Konami should just buy this game off bandai they apparently know what they're doing

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by pyrot53

A week ago Bandai introduced to us a new policy. It was met with much dismay by many players. Nevertheless Bandai continued to believe that the decision they made was the right one. I'm here to present the several reasons as to why their new system is completely illogical and a detriment to the game.

Let's start by examining the new distribution of prizing. Here
Below I have added the amount of prizing, in boxes, that each level will receive.
Here
Now, Bandai has given us more numbers to work with. They posted the store "Levels" and locations Here.
To make it easier I will give you a breakdown of what the levels stack up to
Level 1: 33
Level 2: 12
Level 3: 4
Level 4: 1
Level 5: 1
Level 6: 0
Level (Blank): 1 (Another PRIME example of how unprofessional, unskilled, and under qualified the workers for this company are)
Total: 52
Number of Chunins now: 52
Number of Chunins during 4th Quarter: 40 Despite Andy's inability to count up to 40, there were still 40

Source
As is evident, there is a huge gap between level 3 (The amount of prizing we are accustomed to for chunins) and level 4. However, the amount of prizing for first place that Chunins previously received is only available to level 4 and above. This is ridiculous. Only 2 people will receive the same amount of prizing for a tournament where 40 people used to. For those 38 other stores that just got their prizing for first place cut in half why on earth would you expect more players to want to start playing in that area? You cannot punish stores that are trying their hardest to keep the game alive and expect them to continue their support. Essentially, this makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Not exactly in regards to currency, but to the amount of attendance they will receive now. If an area is already obtaining high numbers for locals they do not need to be receiving greater prizing. If another area is subsequently obtaining less numbers for locals, they should not receive less prizing if growth of this game is your intention. I do not understand how anyone could believe the contrary to be true. It simply does not make sense. (Occupy Bandai, anyone?)

At the moment, there are only 12 locations that are receiving the same amount of product from Bandai, 2 locations that will have more prizing, and 45 locations with less.

Bandai has justified this new policy by stating that more locations will be added. To discuss further how idiotic this plan is, lets look at some of the additions; 3 have been added to California, 2 to Indiana, 2 to Michigan, 2 to Ohio and 4 to Florida as the states that have gained more than 1 additional Chunin.

4/6 California locations are Level 1
2/3 Indiana locations are level 1
3/3 Ohio locations are level 1
3/6 Florida locations are level 1

3/3 Michigan locations are level 2 - Which is still essentially the EXACT same prizing as level 1

People WILL not travel for a Level 1 Chunin. The payout to first place is not worth it. However people did travel reasonable distances for original Chunins. Instead of 4 level 1s in California why not have 2 additional regular sized chunins? Same goes for just about ever place. The priniciple here is, essentially, that you (Bandai and whomever makes these decisions) are spreading the wealth to thin. Nobody is going to travel for 5 50$ tournaments however if there is 1 $250 tournament, many people will attend from various areas. People are now pressured into attending locals. They can no longer happily take just a couple days off play in 1 or 2 locals that be granted the gift that was a quarterly Chunin. And because other commitments are most likely going to take priority over Naruto CCG, they will gradually become less interested with nothing more than a quarterly box tournament to look forward to.

Number of boxes given out for Quarter 4 Chunins: 240
Number of boxes to be given out for Quarter 1 Chunins: 249

I am POSITIVE that if you take 2 of level 1 stores and consolidate those into one tournament that the populous would be much more accepting and you would be giving out less product. The prize structure appears that absolutely no thought process was put behind it and you didnt even look at the total amount of boxes going out. Jump from 6 to more than double? Logical.

Also, what exactly is the point to distributing a box worth of product to people who make top 16? Nobody strives for that spot. I believe that most people would rather look forward to a large grand prize than a tiny prize you get if you go 2-3. Most stores generally give out a pack with entry fee as well, or packs to those who do not top 8. An entry fee that really is not warranted now that prizing for first is 50% of what it was. Along with the fact that SRs are going to be distributed terribly and 2nd place doesnt even get sealed product. The people that do end up there attend the tournament based on its prestige and for the exposure to a larger tournament environment, neither of those 2 qualities does this plan facilitate.

To top it off, what was wrong with Chunin structure before?

There was very little, if any, complaining done about how Chunins were structured before. People were, however, concerned about how the game was doing as a whole. And in order to achieve a better local turnout you decide to, essentially, threaten and take away our privileges that we previously had until we meet your "standards". That is ridiculous. If the goal of this plan was to start digging your grave early, you definitely have accomplished just that.

I urge you review your awful plan and come up with a new one that does not punish areas for not doing as well as you had hoped, or revert back to the previous plan that you have been using for the last 5 years that extremely few people had a problem with.

So true, chunin were good for so long then, only one per state exect cali, flordia ect, basically playing favorites, and now only one box, ill travel 1 hr at most for a level 1. BS [STATUS]

[shenanigans]

I completely agree… Living in Florida, I would much rather have 2 much larger chunins than 6 that no one is going to travel too… All the prestige is gone having 6 in a state (not that there was much to begin with in naruto)… and with 1 box for first place for most?? Not worth the gas…

I am among the few lucky enough to have a store in state with a level of 4 (brads). Which will be the only chunin worth attending btw. Instead of 6 chunins scattered everywhere, why not have 2 chunin with the prize support of 6? If your going to throw the product away anyways… why not at least make people want to travel for it

No person is going to want to travel for a level 1 chunin… so why have it? Why not push the product to form a larger tournament that would make people want to go and get? (or at least pay for the f%&king gas)

[soviet]

this thread wins the internet, cutting product will do the exact opposite of what Bandai is wanting it to do. I agree that special mats/ sleeves, alt art cards ect should be introduced to chunin sets. The old way is fine anyway local is what needs to be fixed focus on that.

[kyuubi rasengan]

Originally Posted by pyrot53

A week ago Bandai introduced to us a new policy. It was met with much dismay by many players. Nevertheless Bandai continued to believe that the decision they made was the right one. I'm here to present the several reasons as to why their new system is completely illogical and a detriment to the game.

Let's start by examining the new distribution of prizing. Here
Below I have added the amount of prizing, in boxes, that each level will receive.
Here
Now, Bandai has given us more numbers to work with. They posted the store "Levels" and locations Here.
To make it easier I will give you a breakdown of what the levels stack up to
Level 1: 33
Level 2: 12
Level 3: 4
Level 4: 1
Level 5: 1
Level 6: 0
Level (Blank): 1 (Another PRIME example of how unprofessional, unskilled, and under qualified the workers for this company are)
Total: 52
Number of Chunins now: 52
Number of Chunins during 4th Quarter: 40 Despite Andy's inability to count up to 40, there were still 40

Source
As is evident, there is a huge gap between level 3 (The amount of prizing we are accustomed to for chunins) and level 4. However, the amount of prizing for first place that Chunins previously received is only available to level 4 and above. This is ridiculous. Only 2 people will receive the same amount of prizing for a tournament where 40 people used to. For those 38 other stores that just got their prizing for first place cut in half why on earth would you expect more players to want to start playing in that area? You cannot punish stores that are trying their hardest to keep the game alive and expect them to continue their support. Essentially, this makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Not exactly in regards to currency, but to the amount of attendance they will receive now. If an area is already obtaining high numbers for locals they do not need to be receiving greater prizing. If another area is subsequently obtaining less numbers for locals, they should not receive less prizing if growth of this game is your intention. I do not understand how anyone could believe the contrary to be true. It simply does not make sense. (Occupy Bandai, anyone?)

At the moment, there are only 12 locations that are receiving the same amount of product from Bandai, 2 locations that will have more prizing, and 45 locations with less.

Bandai has justified this new policy by stating that more locations will be added. To discuss further how idiotic this plan is, lets look at some of the additions; 3 have been added to California, 2 to Indiana, 2 to Michigan, 2 to Ohio and 4 to Florida as the states that have gained more than 1 additional Chunin.

4/6 California locations are Level 1
2/3 Indiana locations are level 1
3/3 Ohio locations are level 1
3/6 Florida locations are level 1

3/3 Michigan locations are level 2 - Which is still essentially the EXACT same prizing as level 1

People WILL not travel for a Level 1 Chunin. The payout to first place is not worth it. However people did travel reasonable distances for original Chunins. Instead of 4 level 1s in California why not have 2 additional regular sized chunins? Same goes for just about ever place. The priniciple here is, essentially, that you (Bandai and whomever makes these decisions) are spreading the wealth to thin. Nobody is going to travel for 5 50$ tournaments however if there is 1 $250 tournament, many people will attend from various areas. People are now pressured into attending locals. They can no longer happily take just a couple days off play in 1 or 2 locals that be granted the gift that was a quarterly Chunin. And because other commitments are most likely going to take priority over Naruto CCG, they will gradually become less interested with nothing more than a quarterly box tournament to look forward to.

Number of boxes given out for Quarter 4 Chunins: 240
Number of boxes to be given out for Quarter 1 Chunins: 249

I am POSITIVE that if you take 2 of level 1 stores and consolidate those into one tournament that the populous would be much more accepting and you would be giving out less product. The prize structure appears that absolutely no thought process was put behind it and you didnt even look at the total amount of boxes going out. Jump from 6 to more than double? Logical.

Also, what exactly is the point to distributing a box worth of product to people who make top 16? Nobody strives for that spot. I believe that most people would rather look forward to a large grand prize than a tiny prize you get if you go 2-3. Most stores generally give out a pack with entry fee as well, or packs to those who do not top 8. An entry fee that really is not warranted now that prizing for first is 50% of what it was. Along with the fact that SRs are going to be distributed terribly and 2nd place doesnt even get sealed product. The people that do end up there attend the tournament based on its prestige and for the exposure to a larger tournament environment, neither of those 2 qualities does this plan facilitate.

To top it off, what was wrong with Chunin structure before?

There was very little, if any, complaining done about how Chunins were structured before. People were, however, concerned about how the game was doing as a whole. And in order to achieve a better local turnout you decide to, essentially, threaten and take away our privileges that we previously had until we meet your "standards". That is ridiculous. If the goal of this plan was to start digging your grave early, you definitely have accomplished just that.

I urge you review your awful plan and come up with a new one that does not punish areas for not doing as well as you had hoped, or revert back to the previous plan that you have been using for the last 5 years that extremely few people had a problem with.

tom ever thought about just playing yugioh?

[VSA]

Actually, I completely agree. Odd thing, that.

[Random101]

tl;dr

No, but srsly, game is going to die.
Bandai is hoping Star Trek and Resident Evil sales will keep them in the black.
Won't happen.
Those games are being pushed too fast.
RE is on it's 5th set in like a year . . . That's oddly similar to a ccg release schedule. But you have to buy the whole set at once.

I, for one, being in Indiana, will still travel for Chunins to MI. But that's just because of the fun of playing. I'm not pro enough to actually win. O wO