Set 22 Jiraiya Preview Discussion

[mist killer]

Jman none busted reprint with mastery now? Yes please I feel he will definantly see play
As for the mission: bad way to late game and odds r it'll miss the fire pick up

[Rasengan Nagashi]

How is Sasuke, more powerfull than Jiraiya-Sama-Senpai? I understand they could be equals as of Susano'o Sasuke and Plain Normal Jiraiya, or even Sagey Jiraiya, But this can be more powerful than this Jiraiya? This is nuts.
Also,
Pros of this Jiraiya: Get any jutsu from discard pile.
Con: In the other one you could get them an play them right away.

[MJM]

Originally Posted by Zabuza of the Mist

REALLY, why are ninjas like Sasuke and Might Guy, and Zabuza getting boosts from their previous 6 combat status to 7, but you Bumb Jiraiya DOWN? For what because you added Mastery and Senjutus?

I really hate this Jiraiya, they need to make a Jiraiya that is good ON HIS OWN, I'm tired of needing Naruto to make him useful. And the mission is basically just like the turn 5 mission from The Gallant Sage except a minor change.

He is lacking in the stat area due to BOTH Mastery and Senjutsu on a non-Reinforcement/Squad/Platoon.

Jiraiya is a rehashed Instructions so he's cool. Sage Training is meh. It can be like a Jiraiya's Hermit Dance from Set 20 but I'd rather play JHD over it most of the time.

[world of pein]

i like toad searcher more

[codecatx5]

Originally Posted by MJM

He is lacking in the stat area due to BOTH Mastery and Senjutsu on a non-Reinforcement/Squad/Platoon.

Jiraiya is a rehashed Instructions so he's cool. Sage Training is meh. It can be like a Jiraiya's Hermit Dance from Set 20 but I'd rather play JHD over it most of the time.

Why would you play JHD over Sage Training. They are the same entrace cost same hand cost the only difference is you don't need a ninja for the effect and you can get stuff from chakra.

They could have weakened his injured stats instead of him losing his usual 7 combat.
I have to say as long as Jiraiya doesn't have a jutsu for me to really use with him I won't be playing him there are easier ways to get jutsu back.

[Zabuza of the Mist]

Originally Posted by MJM

He is lacking in the stat area due to BOTH Mastery and Senjutsu on a non-Reinforcement/Squad/Platoon.

Jiraiya is a rehashed Instructions so he's cool. Sage Training is meh. It can be like a Jiraiya's Hermit Dance from Set 20 but I'd rather play JHD over it most of the time.

Yes, but their are Jiraiya's with Mastery, but no stat decrease, and Senjutsu is a worthless piece of crap effect anyway, there was really no reason to decrease his stat because those effect don't make up for it at all. And it's a rehashed Instruction except with one MAJOR weakness, without a draw card you leave that Jutsu to be taken as a BR. Not a risk worth taking unless your winning and have enough chump blockers to take a rush.

[ross134]

The jiraya is cool, but the Mission is one format too late.

[MJM]

Originally Posted by codecatx5

Why would you play JHD over Sage Training. They are the same entrace cost same hand cost the only difference is you don't need a ninja for the effect and you can get stuff from chakra.

They could have weakened his injured stats instead of him losing his usual 7 combat.
I have to say as long as Jiraiya doesn't have a jutsu for me to really use with him I won't be playing him there are easier ways to get jutsu back.

Because in a Mono-Lightning Deck Wind and Fire are rarely helpful.

Originally Posted by Zabuza of the Mist

Yes, but their are Jiraiya's with Mastery, but no stat decrease, and Senjutsu is a worthless piece of crap effect anyway, there was really no reason to decrease his stat because those effect don't make up for it at all. And it's a rehashed Instruction except with one MAJOR weakness, without a draw card you leave that Jutsu to be taken as a BR. Not a risk worth taking unless your winning and have enough chump blockers to take a rush.

Senjutsu obviously is worth something. Turning a Hydro-pump from 3 Wind to 3 anything seems legit.

[codecatx5]

Why do I feel like the only functional reprints that were toned down in this set are all lightning?

[codecatx5]

Originally Posted by MJM

Because in a Mono-Lightning Deck Wind and Fire are rarely helpful.



Senjutsu obviously is worth something. Turning a Hydro-pump from 3 Wind to 3 anything seems legit.

But MJM you don't get anything different from JHD and depending on your choices Wind and Fire can be very helpful I run sasuke's and Kakashi's all the time along with Sakura's , Bonds and even some of my Naruto's and jutsu's.