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Old 07-24-2011, 05:26 PM
world of pein world of pein is offline
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I don't really care either way, but I do see him being limited to 1 after rotation to prevent the combo. It lock your opponent on turn 0 with little to no way to get out of. It's easy enough to prevent, use Hina to get rid of Void World, but it's still a combo that probably shouldn't exist.



The combo is 2 Nagatos and Void World. You can swap one Nagato with the other one over and over again to put an infinite number of coins on Void World. You lock your opponent on turn 0. It's not that hard to get your turn marker to 7 by your opponent's turn 3. The deck itself isn't that good since it lacks offensive jutsus, so right now I don't consider it a major threat.
ok ty gotcha

thanks for not being a jerk and saying something lame like "are u !#**#$* !$%^&#^?1?1!"

anyway, cant they hina or comparative?
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:46 PM
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nagato is fine, ppl just need to stop failing at local tournaments. until that deck completly and unfairly wipes the floor at a shonen jump or similar event (like anbu did), he is perfectly fine
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:47 PM
th3 sav1or th3 sav1or is offline
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ok ty gotcha

thanks for not being a jerk and saying something lame like "are u !#**#$* !$%^&#^?1?1!"

anyway, cant they hina or comparative?
yes, ppl can both hina, and comparitive on nagato or void world, just make sure u do it before they finish getting 10 counters.
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:48 PM
th3 sav1or th3 sav1or is offline
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hear u can stop nagato in his track
zetsu trackin bam no effect
zetsu tracking BAM! rotation
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:03 PM
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if they did do something with it they need to errata, limiting it will hurt void decks to badly
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:59 PM
dungo342 dungo342 is offline
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if they did do something with it they need to errata, limiting it will hurt void decks to badly
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This guy knows . It's true,if you get this of nagato or errata him it will crush void decks completely. Even at turn three any other deck other then earth or vanilla would have an issue with any void ninjas due to the PiP power of the other deck types around. This has been said since voids debut ...it loses to field presence.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:03 PM
big_time69666 big_time69666 is offline
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if they did do something with it they need to errata, limiting it will hurt void decks to badly
nothing wrong wit him as is its only when people abuse him using nagato nagato void world combo

running one is balanced n fair
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:08 AM
OneWingedAngel OneWingedAngel is offline
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ok ty gotcha

thanks for not being a jerk and saying something lame like "are u !#**#$* !$%^&#^?1?1!"

anyway, cant they hina or comparative?
Now why would anyone say something like that? Truth is, I didn't know about the combo until someone pointed it out to me.

Comparative is rotating, but Hina will stop it, unless they drop another Void world. Honestly, I really don't know how to get out of it once you get hit with it. The only counter seems to be prevention.

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if they did do something with it they need to errata, limiting it will hurt void decks to badly
This really isn't true. Void has more than enough ninjas for the deck, whether or not Nagato gets limited wouldn't really hurt the deck at all. Nagato has 2 things going for him, the infinite combo and being able to Mastery Eyes of Pain. By the time you get to bring him out his swapping effect isn't that useful as you should have you other guys in play before him. If he can't do the combo I see no reason to run more than 1 anyway. At 1, I can still swap him for another void ninja and then deploy him again giving me 2 coins on void world. And then use his effect again if I want to. If you errata him to not work on himself, I can only use his effect once and he becomes even more useless.

I don't think anything needs to be done since it's the only thing Void can do right now. When Void starts to get solid jutsus that can kill ninjas, I can see him going down to 1. Killing guys and locking you opponent on turn 0 sounds like a bit much to me.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:06 PM
Mercelius Mercelius is offline
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It really should be put to 1.
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Old 07-25-2011, 03:08 PM
kyoichi kyoichi is offline
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This really isn't true. Void has more than enough ninjas for the deck, whether or not Nagato gets limited wouldn't really hurt the deck at all. Nagato has 2 things going for him, the infinite combo and being able to Mastery Eyes of Pain.
you obviously havnt been listening......Nagato is one of the ONLY two ninjas that can use the Rinnigan jutsu...its the only thing that makes it actually playable in a deck
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