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Old 07-20-2011, 11:45 PM
JDragon JDragon is offline
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Attention: Mads and bads whining about Mill

Pretty sure you're whining when:
1. You're complaining about something that has previously shown to be remarkably unsuccessful in all its iterations and is losing most of its key support in rotation.
2. You have shown a remarkable ignorance of the effect of statistics upon the effectiveness of mill.
3. You're complaining about Pakkun. Seriously? Most decks play 30 ninjas. Pakkun has a 60% chance to mill 0 cards, 24% chance to mill 1 card, 9.6% chance to mill 2 cards, 3.8% chance to mill 3 cards, 1.5% chance to mill 4 cards, and less than 1% chance to mill 5+. The expected value of each Pakkun activation is essentially 0.66 cards milled per activation. So if you successfully resolve 5 mill effects, you should mill around 3 additional cards. Yay?

This is not something obviously derp-broken like Hydro Pump. It could be broken in half, it could be good, it could be trash like every single other mill deck there's ever been. The entire set isn't even out yet. Give it a rest.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:09 AM
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JDragon #1mad bad
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:21 AM
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I love you JDragon.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:23 AM
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JDragon for president! Whinning about any theme before it comes out and can be test played inside the meta is dumb...
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:23 AM
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JDragon #1
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:32 AM
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Pretty sure you're whining when:
1. You're complaining about something that has previously shown to be remarkably unsuccessful in all its iterations and is losing most of its key support in rotation.
2. You have shown a remarkable ignorance of the effect of statistics upon the effectiveness of mill.
3. You're complaining about Pakkun. Seriously? Most decks play 30 ninjas. Pakkun has a 60% chance to mill 0 cards, 24% chance to mill 1 card, 9.6% chance to mill 2 cards, 3.8% chance to mill 3 cards, 1.5% chance to mill 4 cards, and less than 1% chance to mill 5+. The expected value of each Pakkun activation is essentially 0.66 cards milled per activation. So if you successfully resolve 5 mill effects, you should mill around 3 additional cards. Yay?

This is not something obviously derp-broken like Hydro Pump. It could be broken in half, it could be good, it could be trash like every single other mill deck there's ever been. The entire set isn't even out yet. Give it a rest.
U mad bra ?
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:36 AM
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As much as I hate to say this:

Jdragon is right.

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Old 07-21-2011, 12:38 AM
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:51 AM
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JDragon supah awesome man!
He read way to victuhry!
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:32 AM
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As much as I hate to say this:

Jdragon is right.

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