Is anyone else concerned with the power of the Mill.dec

[Kayin]

I'm actually hoping hydropump gets the ban hammer. That card is just too strong for the way the game is played, but I do believe a lot of QQ went on and got it off the ban list right after Tyler himself said once its on the list its not coming off the list. Sadly they deleted the thread as to have no evidence of him ever saying it. The worst part is how they tried to back up the reason why they brought it off the list. Even playtesters know that at one its all about who gets to their's first.

[/)_-]

Originally Posted by Kayin

I'm actually hoping hydropump gets the ban hammer. That card is just too strong for the way the game is played, but I do believe a lot of QQ went on and got it off the ban list right after Tyler himself said once its on the list its not coming off the list. Sadly they deleted the thread as to have no evidence of him ever saying it. The worst part is how they tried to back up the reason why they brought it off the list. Even playtesters know that at one its all about who gets to their's first.

Shut up. Everybody can use it and its not searchable at the moment. That flower petal crap is A LOT more annoying.

[Kayin]

Originally Posted by /)_-

Shut up. Everybody can use it and its not searchable at the moment. That flower petal crap is A LOT more annoying.

Wow no need to get rude but Hydro pump is very bad for the game. If you refuse to believe it then make a poll and see how much people want it gone.

[/)_-]

Whiners want it gone. Like they do mill and like they do with other things. People always wanna remove good stuff from the game because its "too" powerful. The game is becoming stale because of this community more than anything. Limited to 1 is fine. If Bandai feels otherwise then so be it as they make the list. The way the game is at the moment games don't even make it to turn 5.

[spiritomb]

Originally Posted by OneWingedAngel

The reason why mill wasn't playable before was because we had a rule that said you needed to mill the exact number of cards, remember? It was almost impossible to win by mill because you needed to mill exactly. That rule went away after block was starter and there were no good mill cards to make a deck around. Now we're getting better mill cards and the rule was changed. That's the difference.

I never once said mill was broken. I don't ever see it winning for the same reasons why you and others don't feel it's over powered. Raw strength should run over mill decks. All I'm saying is that they need to be careful with how they handle it. There is no real way to recover lost cards. Passing Fates is okay, but it's limited to one element and Hina gets rid of it. It's a legit concern.

in bold; that is the point of mill. the rest of this post contradicts ur argument on this thread.

Originally Posted by Kayin

Okay first off let me set things straight. I'm not complaining about the D*** deck I'm just posting concerns over the amount of support that mill received. Also I'm not wanting to kill a deck type nor am I hating on this deck. I actually loved fire when I first played Naruto back in the path days and I've been waiting for it to get back up in the deck rankings. I'm just concerned that with the way things are going we may/may not have a god tier deck. I only wanted to see if others where concerned about this development. You are trying to make my concerns look like they a falsely brought upon and are providing no real answers or pitching in with real test data. I for one will probably proxy these cards and run a mill deck vs various other deck types. Hopefully...I'm wrong and the deck fails, but then again I'm not the whole gamer base I can't test it versus everything out there.

Also its sad to see a fellow card player disrespect another's concerns as mere conjecture before completely looking at the situation and noticing that things could be problematic. Instead they toss it aside and say stop QQ and lrn2play or other stuff disrespecting another player skills which during the discussion in question has no real value. I have confidence in my skills as a naruto player just as you have confidence in your skills as a player so these insults should not be slung so freely. I understand if you want to give helpful advice by all means give it, but don't be a D*** D***** to the person you are giving advice to. This makes anything you say lose all value, well in my eyes anyway.

Last thing and I'm through with this long rant. If a person doesn't play cards that you deem better than what you would play in that deck then by all means that DOES NOT give you the right to bash them and say play Y card because its better than X card. Sometimes there are combos within a deck that you would not know about unless you play the deck seriously. I have heard and taken so much BS about my wind deck on these forums but it works out just fine for me in my area. I haven't heard anyone try and build it and test it out. They just look at the list and say 'oh man that's pretty bad.' WTF!!!! Have you played with it? Its not fair to judge a person's deck so harshly and not expect them to get upset with you. There's a F***** fine line between constructive input and just outright bashing.

-Lets out a deep sigh- Now I feel better.

in bold doesnt prove anything. plus a good player usually can point out a weak deck in advance. they just have a good understanding over the game and can understand what works or doesnt in advance of using that deck.

[Mercelius]

Originally Posted by Kayin

Okay first off let me set things straight. I'm not complaining about the D*** deck I'm just posting concerns over the amount of support that mill received. Also I'm not wanting to kill a deck type nor am I hating on this deck. I actually loved fire when I first played Naruto back in the path days and I've been waiting for it to get back up in the deck rankings. I'm just concerned that with the way things are going we may/may not have a god tier deck. I only wanted to see if others where concerned about this development. You are trying to make my concerns look like they a falsely brought upon and are providing no real answers or pitching in with real test data. I for one will probably proxy these cards and run a mill deck vs various other deck types. Hopefully...I'm wrong and the deck fails, but then again I'm not the whole gamer base I can't test it versus everything out there.

Also its sad to see a fellow card player disrespect another's concerns as mere conjecture before completely looking at the situation and noticing that things could be problematic. Instead they toss it aside and say stop QQ and lrn2play or other stuff disrespecting another player skills which during the discussion in question has no real value. I have confidence in my skills as a naruto player just as you have confidence in your skills as a player so these insults should not be slung so freely. I understand if you want to give helpful advice by all means give it, but don't be a D*** D***** to the person you are giving advice to. This makes anything you say lose all value, well in my eyes anyway.

Last thing and I'm through with this long rant. If a person doesn't play cards that you deem better than what you would play in that deck then by all means that DOES NOT give you the right to bash them and say play Y card because its better than X card. Sometimes there are combos within a deck that you would not know about unless you play the deck seriously. I have heard and taken so much BS about my wind deck on these forums but it works out just fine for me in my area. I haven't heard anyone try and build it and test it out. They just look at the list and say 'oh man that's pretty bad.' WTF!!!! Have you played with it? Its not fair to judge a person's deck so harshly and not expect them to get upset with you. There's a F***** fine line between constructive input and just outright bashing.

-Lets out a deep sigh- Now I feel better.

I feel for you completely. Idk what else to say, except... sometimes intellectual concerns aren't worth bringing up in front of the ignorant masses.
I've always wanted help on my deck, as a casual player, but I've never posted my deck here in the forums.
I play what most would say are ...unusual... to put it kindly. And I just don't want to hear the BS from others. Some can't see the potential in cards. And that is something I can say on the subject of mill.
I think this deck has a great deal of potentially being over powered.
All I have to think of is World of Fire. 6 coins for half my deck...? Make Out Paradise, search 2 Anbus, Pip, deploy, and they met half the requirements. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

[whitefang of konoha]

Originally Posted by Kayin

This is not a discussion abot how strong or how sorry my deck is. This is about with all the support that mill will be recieving in this set how often than not will we be left with any chance to combat this deck type.

I hate when people assume that my deck doesn't work. GOD D*****!!!!!

Ur deck probably doesn't work lol. Quit whining and come up with counters to a mill deck instead of crying on the boards. There are numerous counters to mill, just involves some thinking.

[whitefang of konoha]

Originally Posted by Mercelius

I feel for you completely. Idk what else to say, except... sometimes intellectual concerns aren't worth bringing up in front of the ignorant masses.
I've always wanted help on my deck, as a casual player, but I've never posted my deck here in the forums.
I play what most would say are ...unusual... to put it kindly. And I just don't want to hear the BS from others. Some can't see the potential in cards. And that is something I can say on the subject of mill.
I think this deck has a great deal of potentially being over powered.
All I have to think of is World of Fire. 6 coins for half my deck...? Make Out Paradise, search 2 Anbus, Pip, deploy, and they met half the requirements. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Have you two ladies heard of this helpful ***** named hina? She has a knack for removing those o so pesky missions like world of fire. Freezing eyes, pretty much rape their entire field? Get ur head out of your Derrieres ya turkez.

[Kayin]

Okay now this is getting out of hand. This topic has been quiet for the past couple of days and you good sir come in hear actin' like you all mad. GTFO and just let the thread die.

[whitefang of konoha]

Originally Posted by Kayin

Okay now this is getting out of hand. This topic has been quiet for the past couple of days and you good sir come in hear actin' like you all mad. GTFO and just let the thread die.

you all mad? I'm pretty sure that's not proper English lol. Your assassination of the English language reminds me of that no child left behind policy, that they started for for stupid people or in this case people who cannot even speak proper English. In this case I'm afraid that you must be one of those children that got left behind.