Surge advice plz

[Sakura's Retribution]

reason i hate losing kankuro is because he is usually has 4-5 growth coins at the time of getting freezing eyed. so i lose a turn 0 yeah, but he has stats of a turn 5-6 and likely to have kept getting bigger. It irritates me everytime i drop freezing just to lose my biggest ninja, so I stopped running him.

I don't see how putting 2 cards with a fire symbol are going to make this a fire deck, albeit a mono fire deck is hardly far from a splash of fire and whatever else is good at the time. The sasuke functions as a quick field wipe for the opponent on turn 5 leaving only 2-3 ninja max to try and block me and the invasion also helps get hiruko [or if i felt like putting him in, sasori] if i have already drawn sasuke.

I agree from your standpoint on the sakura's desire and a few other combos, but those all hinge on using pokemon attacks, and as I have hinted to a few times, I play naruto not pokemon. I'm not going to look for hydro-pumps unless I can get them easy and i'm not going to run flamethrower. With the tourney's i've played using my current version of this deck, I haven't needed it and have placed top 2 in my locals each time.

What I'm saying is not an attack on your deck or ideas. If you have looked over this thread and read through other suggestions I've fielded, I have run Desire before. I know the combos that can and can't run off it. I took it out because more often then not, I'd use it as a hand cost because there was nothing in my hand I was willing to discard and I had a more useful mission in hand, even more so know that Ino's Tears came out.

One other point, I have mentioned a few times now that this deck had started as a female/wind deck that at this point had gotten out of control and away from the basic female build. Surge is almost the only way to build wind, but I still want the deck to be female focused. That is why I use some of the cards I do, and for now they work. But any ideas that sound good I do try in the deck, and I try to mention what I've tryed so others know and hopefully will have new ideas.

[Mike_Oretta]

Originally Posted by Sakura's Retribution

reason i hate losing kankuro is because he is usually has 4-5 growth coins at the time of getting freezing eyed. so i lose a turn 0 yeah, but he has stats of a turn 5-6 and likely to have kept getting bigger. It irritates me everytime i drop freezing just to lose my biggest ninja, so I stopped running him.

I don't see how putting 2 cards with a fire symbol are going to make this a fire deck, albeit a mono fire deck is hardly far from a splash of fire and whatever else is good at the time. The sasuke functions as a quick field wipe for the opponent on turn 5 leaving only 2-3 ninja max to try and block me and the invasion also helps get hiruko [or if i felt like putting him in, sasori] if i have already drawn sasuke.

I agree from your standpoint on the sakura's desire and a few other combos, but those all hinge on using pokemon attacks, and as I have hinted to a few times, I play naruto not pokemon. I'm not going to look for hydro-pumps unless I can get them easy and i'm not going to run flamethrower. With the tourney's i've played using my current version of this deck, I haven't needed it and have placed top 2 in my locals each time.

What I'm saying is not an attack on your deck or ideas. If you have looked over this thread and read through other suggestions I've fielded, I have run Desire before. I know the combos that can and can't run off it. I took it out because more often then not, I'd use it as a hand cost because there was nothing in my hand I was willing to discard and I had a more useful mission in hand, even more so know that Ino's Tears came out.

One other point, I have mentioned a few times now that this deck had started as a female/wind deck that at this point had gotten out of control and away from the basic female build. Surge is almost the only way to build wind, but I still want the deck to be female focused. That is why I use some of the cards I do, and for now they work. But any ideas that sound good I do try in the deck, and I try to mention what I've tryed so others know and hopefully will have new ideas.

I guess we all just play Pokemon and win then. LOL there is a reason everyone plays Hydro-Pumps. There is a reason people complain about how busted it is for ninja removal.

A little more info about Hiruko. His effect will hardly ever go off. If it does, your playing against a scrub.

You attack with Hiruko and call a weak ninja... they chump block.
You attack with Hiruko and call a strong ninja. They block and use a powerful jutsu or block with it and let it go down... either way hiruko didn't do jack.

The 4th Kazekage lets your opponent choose... Basically all of those cards give your opponent the option to decide the outcome... With Hydro-Pump, I decide who lives and who dies!

Sasuke Freezing eyes... Kills your ninjas too... so yeah a double edged sword.


So about Kankuro turn 0 who is a 6/5 by turn 4. Who cares if he gets killed by Sasuke.... hes better than a turn 0 ninja who didn't become a 6/5 for all those helpful turns.. he served his purpose... Any other turn 0 would have died along time ago. So you'd rather use Mitsuri or shino??? those ninjas remain a 0/2 and a 2/0 for the entire game... they'll be dead long before sasuke hits.. What you are saying is you don't want to play kankuro because you don't want him to be killed while he is a big 6/5....

Heart to Heart and Miroku destroy your deck. too many put in play effects and search.

I would revise the decklist I built to put in 1 miroku and take out 1 ino's tears. It doesn't get effected by jealousy because jealousy lasts for 1 turn. the turn after I can just draw draw draw my deck THIN... then start destroying my opponents field.

[Sakura's Retribution]

hiruko's effect hits very often, since i surge him during my opponent's EoJ. Unless they have something that moves standby into teams they lose their ninja.

4th is late turn clean up for me. usually by the time he hits, the opponent has used up all their chump blockers. so anything left to choose from is stuff they dont want to lose. Also our meijin judged that he can get rid of ninja that I can't target with ninja effects, since the opponent is the one who targets.

with my build there is only 1 ninja that will typically get hit by sasuke, and that is cursed warrior. so double edged sword only cuts both ways through my opponent.

yes i would rather run matsuri, as i have explained a few times in this thread. yes she remains a 0/2, but her effect that i can reorganize has helped me quite a few times. the fact that 9 times out of 10 she won't die to sasuke also helps.

thankfully no one at my locals runs heart2heart, and the few that do run miroku only side it. so i usually don't have to worry about it since games usually go to time before my 2nd game ends. also I usually side in 2x shino parasite for matchups that actually side against me, usually in place of cursed warriors.

[Mike_Oretta]

It's good to hear that your deck works against the people at your tournaments. That's all that matters.

At my card shop I can't get away with cards that can end up hurting myself.

"I'll deploy the 4th kazekage, but since I can't team him with anyone because of Sakura I won't attack. I dont have mitsuri I'n play to help me against my own Sakura so I guess I'll end turn. Oh you have hydro pump? My kazekage won't be alive next turn to add him to a team. You beat me"

Opponent: "you beat yourself."

Does anyone play naruto shion against you? Calling turn 4 on you would be devastating. No sasuke, hiruko, baki. You'll have to wait from turn 3 to turn 6 for your next deployment. Thats plenty of time for your opponent to win the game.

[Sakura's Retribution]

of the 2 people that play lightning. 1 plays a wierd toad/true allies varient without sage mode. and the other uses the tailed beast reinforcements.

and it isn't just matsuri, I also have the T4 advisor that gives all my sand surge.
so i can attack with gaara/tem, baki, and 4th the turn they come into play.