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View Poll Results: Hows fire?
Fire has sufficiant support to be top tier. 3 3.57%
Bandai has dropped the ball the last few sets on elemental balance. 38 45.24%
Fire week was horrible. 53 63.10%
Fire week was good. 15 17.86%
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Nine Tails Naruto Nine Tails Naruto is offline
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Fire week, what a huge disappointment.

I really hate to start another complaint thread . But after not only a shortened week, but a disappointing week I would like to get some thoughts on the state of fire.

With the exception of only a few cards:
itatachi/sasuke squad
dragonflame
itatchi
kakashi

the rest of the week was absolutely underwhealing to say the least.

The same design that went into the other elements has not come through equally when compared to fire. Most of the complaints I hear are:
Fire does not have a proper curve
fire cant keep a sufficiant hand size
lowest chakra generation
insufficiant low drops
not enough character diversity
among others.

With the sasuke itatchi fight more than likely spanning 2 sets im fairly hopeful that fire will get sufficiant support soon. But in the mean time more could have been done.

So what do you think of fire and its recent support?
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:50 AM
kexsu1313 kexsu1313 is offline
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fire week was better than lightning week but not as good as wind.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:50 AM
Naruto VS Sasuke 1 Naruto VS Sasuke 1 is offline
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I honestly think if fire could get 1 or 2 decent 0 drops that aren't dogs and some decent draw missions, it would be tier 1 simply because of the fact it has access to 2 of the best jutsus in the format, sharingan kunai and fear by genjutsu. The only reason fire isn't tier 1 is because it has bad draw and bad chakra generation.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:57 AM
juggernautonroids juggernautonroids is offline
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Yeah chakra generation sucks in fire. I tried succeed will of fire tobi and high speed body and those don't work really . This week sucked. I'm waiting to see the kakashi fourth hokage squad , And I'm ready for void week and water week
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:14 PM
ZiegAmimura ZiegAmimura is offline
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Originally Posted by kexsu1313 View Post
fire week was better than lightning week but not as good as wind.
Lightning blew Fire out. Not as good as wind, true, but definitely the worst of the three previewed.

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Originally Posted by Naruto VS Sasuke 1 View Post
I honestly think if fire could get 1 or 2 decent 0 drops that aren't dogs and some decent draw missions, it would be tier 1 simply because of the fact it has access to 2 of the best jutsus in the format, sharingan kunai and fear by genjutsu. The only reason fire isn't tier 1 is because it has bad draw and bad chakra generation.
Fear by Genjutsu, in my opinion, doesn't count, cause it's splashed into every single deck. No matter the element.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:27 PM
WizKid WizKid is offline
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Fire doesn't need missions. It has some really great ones.

Fire doesn't need new jutsu, it has some of the most busted.

It does need drops. Kotetsu from last set was a good example. Now it needs a 0 that isn't kiba or sasuke. That's all. Yes i would love a draw mission, even a draw 1 but fire has reading, clue swof, clash, and popularity. Tsunades guess and a shadow in the moonlight, and make out, are all still legal.

It has missions. It needs a curve. Tis all.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:34 PM
allanime01 allanime01 is offline
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Fire has decent and powerful decent jutsus (Chidori from BP, FBG, and Shar. Kunai) but thats negated by bad chakra gain

Fire has amazing high drops, but thats negated by the fact that after 3 turns of dropping 0's, you are kinda scrambling.

Fire has decent draw power, but after ninja drop and then needing to charge to play said jutsu's above, you kinda lose out on your hand

To solve problem 1 and 2, you play fire/lightning. To solve problem 3, you play fire/wind. Mono-Fire pretty much cant be decent until we can stop splashing other elements to make up for its faults.
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:35 PM
Lord Cowman III Lord Cowman III is offline
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won't vote on biased poll. I felt fire was underwhelming at times, definitely not on par with the other elements. That being said think ahead people, next set is a massive fire set. just like we all knew last set and this set would have *gasp* lightning/void and Earth/water. I dont mind a valid argument but even the poll leans to "there is no argument your opinion is unwanted in this thread, fire QQ is QQ bad QQ and so QQ is BanQQai!"
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:38 PM
allanime01 allanime01 is offline
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That being said think ahead people, next set is a massive fire set. just like we all knew last set and this set would have *gasp* lightning/void and Earth/water.
And yet lightning is being called horrible this set (not As bad as fire though) even though its what one of the focuses were on. Last set the focus was on new themes alll around, and water was called out for being the most busted (with earth riding its broken coat-tails)

Sure, next set fire will be the main theme, but does that really mean Fire will rise to top tier?
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:39 PM
WizKid WizKid is offline
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And yet lightning is being called horrible this set (not As bad as fire though) even though its what one of the focuses were on. Last set the focus was on new themes alll around, and water was called out for being the most busted (with earth riding its broken coat-tails)

Sure, next set fire will be the main theme, but does that really mean Fire will rise to top tier?
You said exactly what i wanted to.
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