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Old 01-02-2011, 01:42 PM
Legion Legion is offline
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Block format is fine. I've played several games that were based around block formats, all of them i have liked more then yu-gi-oh and yes, i did play yu-gi-oh for 8 some odd years. Mainly as a way to get credit for other games.

Anyways, back on point. Manda really shouldn't have been made to tell the truth. You can Snake Assault it into play as early as turn 3. Though in my mind, manda is on the fence about being broken. Anyways, i understand what your saying about bandai listening to the players to much and what not, but it is bandai's fault in the first place. Their card designers aren't that great, and they need to put more time into play testing. They obviously don't do a good enough job.

The X card has counters so its fine, thing i said was more to everyone. A lot of people like to say that. It was also meant to be a general statement about decks as well, which you were talking about some earth tech being able to indirectly beat water which makes state 2 worse. That was the other thing i was meaning to hit with my previous state. Though, if you weren't using it as a argument to keep state 2 around, then ignore that.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:31 PM
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i used it to showed that water is not unbeatable like people think. then again you know how many people i see run no hand water and lose. its about the player most of the time. bandai dose zero playtesting. mi knew he was over the top when he was first previewed but i was like its alright because you have to have no hand, plus it was only 2 jutsu that could be played from chakra area. but path of pain came out and there were to abuse. dont get me wrong with out sasuke the no hand jutsu are a.s.s.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:35 PM
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Yeah, they left the deck with no happy medium. Take away state 2 and stream, the deck just drops to being at a meh level. It will still be good and consistent, but it has no heavy hitting jutsus which is what it needs.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:35 PM
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ITT: My five color Anbu deck beats the Water decks at my local so they shouldn't ban obvious broken cards.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:55 PM
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ITT: My five color Anbu deck beats the Water decks at my local so they shouldn't ban obvious broken cards.
are you being sarcastic lol. i played before rushing out three pre errata chibi yamato is insane.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:59 PM
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Yeah, they left the deck with no happy medium. Take away state 2 and stream, the deck just drops to being at a meh level. It will still be good and consistent, but it has no heavy hitting jutsus which is what it needs.
legion what you said is true no middle or too much middle ground. the rest of the deck cant win with out stream or state 2. as for heavy hitting jutsu water has one, that being chidoi stream so why take it away with out the proper replacement
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:53 PM
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Yeah, they left the deck with no happy medium. Take away state 2 and stream, the deck just drops to being at a meh level. It will still be good and consistent, but it has no heavy hitting jutsus which is what it needs.
Just about everything in this thread is laughable I'm gonna be frank the cards that are unfair needs to be gone regardless of what they do to no-hand water. thats better than it making the other top 4 decks virtually unplayable. So. water lover too bad your broke ish is gonna get the hammer accept it and move on.Also whoever said Earth was best well 1 or 2 kages disagree with you seeing as water won which varient you ask? N-hand water its an unfair tier 0 deck and as such needs a nerf because water has counters hen it has answers to answers and most of its counters work well in it's element or is in it's element. Which is like saying play water or lose aand thats unacceptable.

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Old 01-02-2011, 04:28 PM
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The Truth: Deal with it

First off...I'm a True water player since before Ghost Panic.
I do believe that stream does need to be banned. Yes their are ways of running water different than everyone does....(I do it) Sasuke State 2 does not need to be banned just limited. No, Suigesto Joy doesn't need to be limited thier are to many responses to missions (if you need help to negate this let me know) . If we are going to ban a card that breaks water is should be Tayuya even though she is limited to 1 she is, YES, still broken. But, in return believe or not Yes, Earth is the best deck type as of right now due to the draw/chakra gain with Tenten and Sands mission.

Side Note: Bandai whats with the power creaps?
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:44 PM
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Kabuto (database): This card is not a problem card, it's the cards it can search. The main issue people have with it is its ability to search out make out tactics and suigetsu's joy. By hitting make out tactics and suigetsu's joy directly, kabuto is not an issue by himself.
and if kabuto stays at 2, who cares how many SoyJoys or MoTs i can have in a deck, i can get them no matter what anyways.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:49 PM
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Just about everything in this thread is laughable I'm gonna be frank the cards that are unfair needs to be gone regardless of what they do to no-hand water. thats better than it making the other top 4 decks virtually unplayable. So. water lover too bad your broke ish is gonna get the hammer accept it and move on.Also whoever said Earth was best well 1 or 2 kages disagree with you seeing as water won which varient you ask? N-hand water its an unfair tier 0 deck and as such needs a nerf because water has counters hen it has answers to answers and most of its counters work well in it's element or is in it's element. Which is like saying play water or lose aand thats unacceptable.
well im a good player and got OWNED by an earth deck, play water or lose get the f.u.c.k. outta here. lm a true water, and fire player, but then again i play any element i wish. well use to until block format.by the way what element do you use.
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