Kakashi Cup: Round 4 Rock Lee vs. Momochi Zabuza

[Hikari Link]

For the rules and scenario, go here. This thread will contain only new information.

Lee:
Lee is at full power, healed to 100% after his battle with his clone. No weights, no restrictions.

Zabuza:
Zabuza is at full power, healed to 100% directly before his death. No restrictions.

This match is in some ways similar to Guy vs. Kisame, so this should be fairly interesting. *DING DING DING*

[Nickuchiha]

Um, what is with the "no summoning, 100 clone limit?" Were you on autopilot and thinking about Naruto?

[Hikari Link]

Originally Posted by Nickuchiha

Um, what is with the "no summoning, 100 clone limit?" Were you on autopilot and thinking about Naruto?

Copy/Paste error.

[Narutoluigi]

Think of it this way. Back in the Guren filler arc, lee was able to read the prisioners movements with his mind even with the smoke in the way. Im not sure of that same rule applies with Zabuza's Mist.

But with his weights off, Leees would be able to quickly attack Zabuza before he could even set up the weights. if that happens, then lee should win.

But THEN AGAIN, Zabuza could alrady have the mist setup before the match begins.

[Sheep+Goat=GEEP]

i dont really know what this is but if lee versed zabuza, lee would win...i mean look at the gaara fight, the only reason gaara won was because he had the cheap *** sand armor and he was a main villian and even then lee rocked his face with those kicks and punches, if lee loses his weights and goes 8 inner gates its game over

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Hikari Link

For the rules and scenario, go here. This thread will contain only new information.

Lee:
Lee is at full power, healed to 100% after his battle with his clone. No weights, no restrictions.

Zabuza:
Zabuza is at full power, healed to 100% directly before his death. No restrictions.

This match is in some ways similar to Guy vs. Kisame, so this should be fairly interesting. *DING DING DING*

the NO RESTRICTIONS part makes this a little 1 sided. I mean, it would have been an even fight WITHOUT gates, but with gates, even the first 1, zabuza has no chance. I mean, lee is 4.5/5 without gates. the 1st gate removes the body's limiters on the muscles, which would easily put lee above 5 or even 5.5 in speed. zabuza's 4 is piddly compared to that. and lee can open the 1st gate while in motion. I really don't think the sword is much of a factor in this fight. if zabuza doesn't use mist, he loses. if he does use mist (which lee knows about since it's ninjutsu) he will use gates. and when he is using 4/5 gates, pretty sure the radiating force would be enough to stop zabuza's sword from decapitating people.

[spiralblitz]

actually zabuza is pretty hardcore the only reason he fought kakashi like that was because he was vulnerable to genjutsu kakashi was using on him before.

[Sharingan_Warrior5693]

Originally Posted by Narutoluigi

Think of it this way. Back in the Guren filler arc, lee was able to read the prisioners movements with his mind even with the smoke in the way. Im not sure of that same rule applies with Zabuza's Mist.

But with his weights off, Leees would be able to quickly attack Zabuza before he could even set up the weights. if that happens, then lee should win.

But THEN AGAIN, Zabuza could alrady have the mist setup before the match begins.

1. That ability you mentioned is filler only and thus has no grounds in this fight.

Originally Posted by Nejifan

the NO RESTRICTIONS part makes this a little 1 sided. I mean, it would have been an even fight WITHOUT gates, but with gates, even the first 1, zabuza has no chance. I mean, lee is 4.5/5 without gates. the 1st gate removes the body's limiters on the muscles, which would easily put lee above 5 or even 5.5 in speed. zabuza's 4 is piddly compared to that. and lee can open the 1st gate while in motion. I really don't think the sword is much of a factor in this fight. if zabuza doesn't use mist, he loses. if he does use mist (which lee knows about since it's ninjutsu) he will use gates. and when he is using 4/5 gates, pretty sure the radiating force would be enough to stop zabuza's sword from decapitating people.

We have no evidence to support the fact that Lee's chakra would be enough to stop Zabuza's sword.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Sharingan_Warrior5693

We have no evidence to support the fact that Lee's chakra would be enough to stop Zabuza's sword.

even without, lee with 1 gate would be more than a match for zabuza's speed (heck, so is lee with 0 gates). and he can do that while in motion. and strength wise lee exceeds kakashi, who was able to stop zabuza's sword. ergo, it's even easier for lee to do so. or he could just dodge it, but you know

besides, with the first gate alone he can do primary lotus at speeds higher than might guy's normal speed, and he can open the first 2 gates while in motion. granted, if it doesn't finish zabuza, he will be in a lot of pain. but I'd say it WOULD finish zabuza. Zabuza's stamina is equal with gaara, and gaara would have been finished if it weren't for sand armor. lee's body is more resilient now than during the chunin exams, so he won't be wincing from primary lotus.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Narutoluigi

Think of it this way. Back in the Guren filler arc, lee was able to read the prisioners movements with his mind even with the smoke in the way. Im not sure of that same rule applies with Zabuza's Mist.

But with his weights off, Leees would be able to quickly attack Zabuza before he could even set up the weights. if that happens, then lee should win.

But THEN AGAIN, Zabuza could alrady have the mist setup before the match begins.

invalid, things from filler don't hold any weight in these fights

and zabuza, nor anyone for that matter <would make shikamaru too broken haha> can have things set up pre-fight. they have 30 minutes to think of a plan of action, but they can't start the fight with jutsu/traps already set up

Originally Posted by Nejifan

the NO RESTRICTIONS part makes this a little 1 sided.

hardly

Originally Posted by Nejifan

I mean, it would have been an even fight WITHOUT gates, but with gates, even the first 1, zabuza has no chance.

ability to use gates doesn't make people auto win you know

Originally Posted by Nejifan

I mean, lee is 4.5/5 without gates.

how would you know? but yes, he's a 4.5

Originally Posted by Nejifan

the 1st gate removes the body's limiters on the muscles, which would easily put lee above 5 or even 5.5 in speed. zabuza's 4 is piddly compared to that. and lee can open the 1st gate while in motion.

he most certainly can...but it would sure be a shame if something happened to where he couldn't see his target. be a bigger shame if the target he worked hard to find in that blindness turned into water on impact...the gates are his key to winning, but if he just uses them willy nilly he's screwed

Originally Posted by Nejifan

I really don't think the sword is much of a factor in this fight. if zabuza doesn't use mist, he loses.

since when has zabuza fought without the mist?

Originally Posted by Nejifan

if he does use mist (which lee knows about since it's ninjutsu) he will use gates. and when he is using 4/5 gates, pretty sure the radiating force would be enough to stop zabuza's sword from decapitating people.

sounds pretty made up to me

Originally Posted by Nejifan

besides, with the first gate alone he can do primary lotus at speeds higher than might guy's normal speed, and he can open the first 2 gates while in motion.

first 2 gates? we've only seen him open gate 1 in motion...techically 5 as well but it seemed more like he was sitting still in the air. wait that came out wrong >_> that made it sound like lee was totally immobile in mid air. umm he wasn't moving himself, but he was still moving from the momentum he already had...he was falling after all. oh, you know what i mean. i think you are remembering wrong. when he started moving again against gaara, he had already opening it up

Originally Posted by Nejifan

granted, if it doesn't finish zabuza, he will be in a lot of pain. but I'd say it WOULD finish zabuza. Zabuza's stamina is equal with gaara, and gaara would have been finished if it weren't for sand armor. lee's body is more resilient now than during the chunin exams, so he won't be wincing from primary lotus.

yes, if zabuza gets hit by the big lotus he would be finished. but this fight isn't going to be as simple as "lee opens the gates, he wins" since zabuza is practically guaranteed to start off with hidden mist jutsu. lee wont be able to see very well so using the gates is super risky since a miss will easily cost him the fight, and his life. he has to find a way to find zabuza. and even then he has to be sure its not a water clone

its not that lee can't win, im not arguing that at all. im not even saying im in favor of zabuza winning. but you are seriously making this out to be way easier than it really would be