Kakashi Cup: Round 3 Uchiha Sasuke vs. Kankurou

[Hikari Link]

The Sharingan can see chakra, which is how Sasuke saw Deidara's spores.

Sasuke has a very good chance, seeing as he has a huge speed advantage on Kankurou at 3.5 to 2.5, which is before the Cursed Seal. Even at level one, we saw a huge speed boost against Zaku, easily a point or more. Throw in level two and Sasuke would be moving far faster than Kankurou could possibly handle.

Also, the element of surprise has been what has landed Kankurou his wins for the most part. Sasuke kind of defeats that by being able to see the strings, so it would be hard to trap him.

The main thing Kankurou could use to combat Sasuke is Sasori, so it really comes down to how he's fair against that. Considering that the majority of Kankurou's offensive capabilities are projectiles and other ranged attacks, I believe Sasuke would have ample opportunity to counter or dodge them.

Really, all he needs is to land a Chidori through the chest and Kankurou would be finished, which is an easy task with his speed and enhanced vision.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Hikari Link

The Sharingan can see chakra, which is how Sasuke saw Deidara's spores.

Sasuke has a very good chance, seeing as he has a huge speed advantage on Kankurou at 3.5 to 2.5, which is before the Cursed Seal. Even at level one, we saw a huge speed boost against Zaku, easily a point or more. Throw in level two and Sasuke would be moving far faster than Kankurou could possibly handle.

Also, the element of surprise has been what has landed Kankurou his wins for the most part. Sasuke kind of defeats that by being able to see the strings, so it would be hard to trap him.

The main thing Kankurou could use to combat Sasuke is Sasori, so it really comes down to how he's fair against that. Considering that the majority of Kankurou's offensive capabilities are projectiles and other ranged attacks, I believe Sasuke would have ample opportunity to counter or dodge them.

Really, all he needs is to land a Chidori through the chest and Kankurou would be finished, which is an easy task with his speed and enhanced vision.

1. point? crow is a 4 speed. ergo, crow moves/attacks faster than sasuke does. therefore, sasuke would have to go curse seal to have a chance (don't know why he wouldn't anyway tbh though) PLUS he has black ant and salamander for defence. sasuke has to fight at least 3 enemies at once the entire fight, since even when kank controlled sasori he still controlled both black ants as well.it doesn't matter if sasuke can see them or not, since he doesn't know what any of the puppets are capable of, kank still has the element of surprise. also, the sharingan cannot predict the movement of the puppets, so that advantage is lost.

2. who said kank was the real kank? he could easily be 1 of the black ants, and when sasuke comes in for chidori, he gets trapped and gg.

[Hikari Link]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

1. point? crow is a 4 speed. ergo, crow moves/attacks faster than sasuke does. therefore, sasuke would have to go curse seal to have a chance (don't know why he wouldn't anyway tbh though) PLUS he has black ant and salamander for defence. sasuke has to fight at least 3 enemies at once the entire fight, since even when kank controlled sasori he still controlled both black ants as well.it doesn't matter if sasuke can see them or not, since he doesn't know what any of the puppets are capable of, kank still has the element of surprise. also, the sharingan cannot predict the movement of the puppets, so that advantage is lost.

2. who said kank was the real kank? he could easily be 1 of the black ants, and when sasuke comes in for chidori, he gets trapped and gg.

1. Whether or not Sasuke knows what they are capable of is moot if he avoids them. Sasuke with the Cursed Seal level 1 is easily as fast, if not faster than a 4 and the simple fact that he can see the strings means that he is far less likely to be ambushed in any way by the puppets. Yes, he has more enemies to deal with, but he could also destroy the puppets. It's not like a well-placed Chidori or Fireball wouldn't do the trick.

2. Considering that Kankurou keeps his puppets in scrolls, Kankurou is the real Kankurou. Even if it was a puppet, Sasuke would be able to see the strings attached to it and not run into it. Sasuke isn't an idiot.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Hikari Link

1. Whether or not Sasuke knows what they are capable of is moot if he avoids them. Sasuke with the Cursed Seal level 1 is easily as fast, if not faster than a 4 and the simple fact that he can see the strings means that he is far less likely to be ambushed in any way by the puppets. Yes, he has more enemies to deal with, but he could also destroy the puppets. It's not like a well-placed Chidori or Fireball wouldn't do the trick.

2. Considering that Kankurou keeps his puppets in scrolls, Kankurou is the real Kankurou. Even if it was a puppet, Sasuke would be able to see the strings attached to it and not run into it. Sasuke isn't an idiot.

1. chidori would pierce them, but I don't believe fireball would destroy them. we don't even know if they are wood or what? salamander at least has SOME metal. although we don't know what state 2 does, as it doesn't necessarily cause the same improvements as the first one, so we don't know how bast he would be. besides, crow has poison, and if sasuke gets poisoned, kank only has to live for another minute or two and he wins. you saw how fast shino dropped from the poison.

2. didn't cross my mind that he would be able to notice if kank wasn't kank. you are right in that case.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

1. chidori would pierce them, but I don't believe fireball would destroy them. we don't even know if they are wood or what? salamander at least has SOME metal.

being made of wood isn't really an issue, fireball has a good amount of force behind it. enough to cause craters

[MinatoNamikaze]

sasuke has a pretty big edge at the start. for an uncertain amount of time he'll be fighting a puppetless puppeteer. even before the curse mark sasuke is physically superior to kankuro, add in state 1 or 2 and the difference would be staggering. but kankuro probably would get the puppets out, and when he does he'll have an advantage of numbers. sasuke is no stranger to fighting numbers thanks to his friend naruto, and we've seen he handles numbers pretty well. since they start in the open in front of eachother, kankuro can't fight to his fullest. seems someone like him would benifit more to being prepared and having things set up. not that he can't fight in the open, he recently did against sasori and company, though he had teammates. but even against that guy in the chuunin exams he started inside of his puppet container. and against shino he went for shelter as soon as possible to attack from the shadows. he doesn't have that luxery against sasuke. however his puppets are indeed dangerous. if he gets cut by crow or sasori its pretty much auto win for kankuro unless sasuke can chidori his head off before the poison kicks in. fighting against two poisonous foes, a shield, and a, well, net will be very dangerous. the smallest breaking of skin causes him to lose

thats why i give it to kankuro. sasuke is good, overall probably etter than kank. but kanks win condition seems much easier than sasuke. how long can sasuke keep being "perfect". i mean if he gets swarmed he can only avoid physical contact for so long. worse yet, that poison isnt ninjutsu, and he never saw kank fight using poison and he's never seen sasori either. he might think its ok to take some amount of damage. whats a small cut versus wasted energy afterall. or at the very elast he'll be less wary.

to be honest i disagree with people only knowing ninjutsu and genjutsu. i get that being a ninja involves deception and stuff, and that revealing everything can almost completely screw some people. but it gives the taijutsu and weapon specialists a pretty big advantage seeing as they will know pretty much everything the ninjutsu and genjutsu guys can throw at them. at the very least perhaps they should also be given their stats? then at least they can see if the person is skilled in taijutsu or very fast or strong. and of course they should be given their own stat sheets for comparison. what good is knowing someone is a 3 in strength after all haha. but knowing they are a 3 and you are a, say, 4 shows that you are stronger. and, without knowing what kind, what potency, and how its administured, if they use poison at all. so dont say "kankuro uses poison withing his two attacking puppets blades. and the poison is lethal" just say "kankuro uses poison" so they at least know to watch out for it.

also, does the info given to the contestants get very detailed?

like against kakashi would it say "jutsu's: lightning blade..." or would it explain the jutsu somewhat?

tl;dr version: kank wins because he has an easier win condition. and i believe a bit more info should be given to the contestants, such as stats and if they use poison or not.