chapter 518 *spoilers*

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

that's not 'depth' that's being cheesy, which I called btw. Only difference being that I figured they could find a way to give up their free will if kabuto were to die and the jutsu remain intact, not that it was something to trigger it. on that note, if kankurou's little speech gets sasori to give up his soul, I'm going to hate them both forever because that would be the lamest thing yet in this manga, and lately there has been A LOT of lame -_-

ugh, the whole thing with sasori, whether that makes his soul release or not, reminds me too much of what happened to tousen <blind dude> in bleach. gained a bunch of power yet had the single most anticlimactic death. died super easy because he basically lost himself getting to that power.

i dont mind the message itself...but it was too easy. thats my problem with what just happened with sasori. cool, let that be his downfall. but come on, its still sasori. give the man a real fight

Originally Posted by Nejifan

soooo....basically they are fiends from final fantasy 10, except they can't die.

perhaps. thats kinda sorta the way i see it.

Originally Posted by Nejifan

and yet he was still able to summon manda (which takes about as much chakra as summoning gamabunta) AND put it under a trance with the sharingan doujutsu AND use a ghetto time/space ninjutsu....to this day that fight still annoys me, because in all honesty sasuke SHOULD have died.

with what happened, yes. you dont establish someone has little chakra left then make them do a bunch of crazy stuff in a super tiny time frame.

Originally Posted by Nejifan

I disagree that 'everyone is that strong now'. sakura isn't. sai isn't. the other guys on kank's team aren't (not even omoi), tenten isn't (but who's surprised lol) temari isn't, ino isn't. choji isn't. etc. they are strong yes, but akatsuki are RIDICULOUS powerful/skilled/experienced. kakuzu, honestly, was one of the weaker ones, and even he fought well.

to be fair, sakura and ino don't really need to be. however, temari totally is. she could beat itachi, nagato, kisame, madara, and all the zetsu with both hands tied behind her back, blindfolded

and everyone knows tenten is that strong. she's madara after all. only people stronger than tenten are temari, shikamaru, probably naruto, sasuke's h4x, and nawaki <the most powerful of them all>. perhaps goku, butt hat seems kinda iffy

Originally Posted by Nejifan

the sasori thing I agree with heavily though. he had to improvise. if he still had his 100 puppets, they would ALL be dead. sasori is pro.

hella pro

Originally Posted by Nejifan

on that note though I hated when sasori was like 'i can't feel a response from my chakra threads'.....they weren't connected anymore anyway!! they would have been severed by black ant just like they were when cut with omoi's sword. there was no space for a chakra string to avoid being snapped when it closed, so that phrase was unneccesary..ugh...if you can't tell, bad dialogue is highly irritating to me.

perhaps he can puppeteer through objects?

[hokage333]

Meh...kinda cheesy, but cool all the same.
Kankuro is hella pro.
Sai's face almost made me **** my pants.
Omoi is cool.
Sasori deserved more action

[SharinganHeir]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

on that note though I hated when sasori was like 'i can't feel a response from my chakra threads'.....they weren't connected anymore anyway!! they would have been severed by black ant just like they were when cut with omoi's sword. there was no space for a chakra string to avoid being snapped when it closed, so that phrase was unneccesary..ugh...if you can't tell, bad dialogue is highly irritating to me.

why? they are made of chakra, not actual thread. Unless the Black Ant has an anti chakra seal on it, it wouldn't cut the chakra threads.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by SharinganHeir

why? they are made of chakra, not actual thread. Unless the Black Ant has an anti chakra seal on it, it wouldn't cut the chakra threads.

by that logic neither would omoi's sword, and yet it did. omoi's sword is a standard issue weapon, it has no special properties. and yet it cut the strings without chakra fused into it, therefore, so would black ant. black ant is airtight, so his strings couldn't possibly go through it. that's why his line annoyed me. it was obvious and unneccesary.

[Sharingan_Warrior5693]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

by that logic neither would omoi's sword, and yet it did. omoi's sword is a standard issue weapon, it has no special properties. and yet it cut the strings without chakra fused into it, therefore, so would black ant. black ant is airtight, so his strings couldn't possibly go through it. that's why his line annoyed me. it was obvious and unneccesary.

Uhhh, did you not see the chakra surrounding his sword when he cut the strings?

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

by that logic neither would omoi's sword, and yet it did. omoi's sword is a standard issue weapon, it has no special properties. and yet it cut the strings without chakra fused into it, therefore, so would black ant. black ant is airtight, so his strings couldn't possibly go through it. that's why his line annoyed me. it was obvious and unneccesary.

is it now chuunin tenten wants to know

[Sunnny_Day]

Just read the chapter.

Pretty cool one, again. Man, it's been a while since we've had these, so I've been stoked these past couple of weeks, =]

Kankuro is so bad ***. Sai going "Try It" was just, insane. Nice stuff ahah.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by hahonryuu

is it now chuunin tenten wants to know

pretty much. the size of the chakra strings is roughly half the width of the finger at minimum, and when shown from the outside, black ant doesn't have any grooves or cracks from which to let chakra through. Therefore it wouldn't be possible for him to still have strings on shin from inside black ant.

Originally Posted by Sharingan_Warrior5693

Uhhh, did you not see the chakra surrounding his sword when he cut the strings?

no, no I didn't. Know why? cuz it wasn't there. chapter 518, page 3. top of the page. omoi cuts the strings. there is no chakra whatsoever on/in his sword. bottom of page two, before cutting the strings, no chakra. page 3, cutting the strings no chakra. landing after cutting the strings, still no chakra.

and you say I say dumb stuff.

[Sharingan_Warrior5693]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

no, no I didn't. Know why? cuz it wasn't there. chapter 518, page 3. top of the page. omoi cuts the strings. there is no chakra whatsoever on/in his sword. bottom of page two, before cutting the strings, no chakra. page 3, cutting the strings no chakra. landing after cutting the strings, still no chakra.

and you say I say dumb stuff.

hmmm, I apologize. I could have sworn there was chakra around it. I guess I was wrong. So this brings up two questions.

1. If chakra threads are that easily severed how are puppet master so deadly in the first place?

2. How did Omoi even see the threads in the first place. I thought they were supposed to be invisible to the naked eye.

[Pain11]

Originally Posted by Sharingan_Warrior5693

hmmm, I apologize. I could have sworn there was chakra around it. I guess I was wrong. So this brings up two questions.

1. If chakra threads are that easily severed how are puppet master so deadly in the first place?

2. How did Omoi even see the threads in the first place. I thought they were supposed to be invisible to the naked eye.

Maybe the slash technique he used was special. Maybe the weapon isn't standard issue. Too early to tell.