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Old 11-24-2010, 08:12 PM
Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz is offline
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with the latest chapter I have gained major respect for Kankuro, also the fack that Deidaras clay can be defused with lightning is pretty funny, that means sasuke could've just hit him with a chidori and left him to be a useless living shell

also the weakness of the zombies is that you have to release their souls ties to this world, meaning Asuma will explode like Sais brother when he sees Kurenais baby, btw has she had the baby yet o.O
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:09 PM
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with the latest chapter I have gained major respect for Kankuro, also the fack that Deidaras clay can be defused with lightning is pretty funny, that means sasuke could've just hit him with a chidori and left him to be a useless living shell

also the weakness of the zombies is that you have to release their souls ties to this world, meaning Asuma will explode like Sais brother when he sees Kurenais baby, btw has she had the baby yet o.O
we already knew about his bombs weakness to lightning..we found that out in the sasuke vs deidara fight when sasuke defused his bombs by running his jutsu through the ground, making deidara's mines useless. and by the time deidara went all suicide bomber on sasuke, sasuke was more or less out of chakra...i doubt he was in a state he could have used chidori
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:52 AM
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we already knew about his bombs weakness to lightning..we found that out in the sasuke vs deidara fight when sasuke defused his bombs by running his jutsu through the ground, making deidara's mines useless. and by the time deidara went all suicide bomber on sasuke, sasuke was more or less out of chakra...i doubt he was in a state he could have used chidori
Er.. Sasuke *tried* to Chidori Lance Deidara when Deidara was prepping for the finale, and failed.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:26 AM
Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz Sasori_of_the_Red_Sandz is offline
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Er.. Sasuke *tried* to Chidori Lance Deidara when Deidara was prepping for the finale, and failed.
oh, well i stopped reading the chapters after sasori died and I then started rereading durring the Sasuke Itachi Fight lol
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:18 PM
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Er.. Sasuke *tried* to Chidori Lance Deidara when Deidara was prepping for the finale, and failed.
Uhhh, I don't recall this. Can you point out the chapter this happened in? Also, I was a little disapointed in Sai's ultimate scroll technique. I was hoping for like a giant dragon or something. Anyway, I think the reason this fight went by so fast is because while the Akatsuki may be strong, everyoneone else is also about at that same level now. 4 strong ninja vs 2 elite ninja. Also, Sasori had no puppets.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:33 PM
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So, it seems if the soul feels a very strong connection to something, or someone else, it can break the jutsu.

Now that is cool. Power of the human spirit man. Always knew I liked this manga for it's depth.Sai showed his " you gonna get raped face."

Super awesome chapter.
that's not 'depth' that's being cheesy, which I called btw. Only difference being that I figured they could find a way to give up their free will if kabuto were to die and the jutsu remain intact, not that it was something to trigger it. on that note, if kankurou's little speech gets sasori to give up his soul, I'm going to hate them both forever because that would be the lamest thing yet in this manga, and lately there has been A LOT of lame -_-

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i think i would more compare it to what was going on in the Casper movie <for those that remember >, more like them being free of something unfinished that still attached their soul to the mortal realm. thats what it seems to me anyway

i mean if it was just having a strong connection to someone then it would be useless to bring some of these people back since running into an important person would be GG. heck, how did the hokage fight against hiruzen when oro brought them back. i imagine they had a pretty strong bond.

unless it was because kabuto hadn't turned him into a killing machine and that was why a bond was able to free him. but if thats true, then aside maybe the actual bad guys, seems like letting them keep their free will is a dumb thing to do since all the good guys will inevitably meet with people they have a bond with. dan will get to tsuande and/or shizune, asuma will get to shikamaru, etc.


all in all it was a tad anti climactic. i mean last chapter we were mostly all fairly convinced that the good guys were gonna lose. perhaps they would survive and get away/be captured. but that was...almost too easy.
soooo....basically they are fiends from final fantasy 10, except they can't die.

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with the latest chapter I have gained major respect for Kankuro, also the fack that Deidaras clay can be defused with lightning is pretty funny, that means sasuke could've just hit him with a chidori and left him to be a useless living shell
also the weakness of the zombies is that you have to release their souls ties to this world, meaning Asuma will explode like Sais brother when he sees Kurenais baby, btw has she had the baby yet o.O
I think you are under the wrong impression. If diedara were to be hit with chidori, he could still use his other bombs. it only diffuses the clay it hits. diedara can still trigger/explode pre-made clay figures even if hit with a chidori. the only reason it stopped diedara this particular time was because he was using his own body AS the bomb.

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we already knew about his bombs weakness to lightning..we found that out in the sasuke vs deidara fight when sasuke defused his bombs by running his jutsu through the ground, making deidara's mines useless. and by the time deidara went all suicide bomber on sasuke, sasuke was more or less out of chakra...i doubt he was in a state he could have used chidori
and yet he was still able to summon manda (which takes about as much chakra as summoning gamabunta) AND put it under a trance with the sharingan doujutsu AND use a ghetto time/space ninjutsu....to this day that fight still annoys me, because in all honesty sasuke SHOULD have died.

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Uhhh, I don't recall this. Can you point out the chapter this happened in? Also, I was a little disapointed in Sai's ultimate scroll technique. I was hoping for like a giant dragon or something. Anyway, I think the reason this fight went by so fast is because while the Akatsuki may be strong, everyoneone else is also about at that same level now. 4 strong ninja vs 2 elite ninja. Also, Sasori had no puppets.
I disagree that 'everyone is that strong now'. sakura isn't. sai isn't. the other guys on kank's team aren't (not even omoi), tenten isn't (but who's surprised lol) temari isn't, ino isn't. choji isn't. etc. they are strong yes, but akatsuki are RIDICULOUS powerful/skilled/experienced. kakuzu, honestly, was one of the weaker ones, and even he fought well.

the sasori thing I agree with heavily though. he had to improvise. if he still had his 100 puppets, they would ALL be dead. sasori is pro.

on that note though I hated when sasori was like 'i can't feel a response from my chakra threads'.....they weren't connected anymore anyway!! they would have been severed by black ant just like they were when cut with omoi's sword. there was no space for a chakra string to avoid being snapped when it closed, so that phrase was unneccesary..ugh...if you can't tell, bad dialogue is highly irritating to me.
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:40 PM
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I disagree that 'everyone is that strong now'. sakura isn't. sai isn't. the other guys on kank's team aren't (not even omoi), tenten isn't (but who's surprised lol) temari isn't, ino isn't. choji isn't. etc. they are strong yes, but akatsuki are RIDICULOUS powerful/skilled/experienced. kakuzu, honestly, was one of the weaker ones, and even he fought well.

the sasori thing I agree with heavily though. he had to improvise. if he still had his 100 puppets, they would ALL be dead. sasori is pro.
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I wouldn't say Omoi isn't strong. I mean for all we know, he could be oe of the strongest ninjas from the Hidden Cloud, also, Ittan doesn't seem to be a slouch either. And who are you to call Kakuzu one of the weaker ones? That dude is beastly.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:56 PM
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I wouldn't say Omoi isn't strong. I mean for all we know, he could be oe of the strongest ninjas from the Hidden Cloud, also, Ittan doesn't seem to be a slouch either. And who are you to call Kakuzu one of the weaker ones? That dude is beastly.
The bolded. Seriously. I think he was one of the stronger ones alongside Pain, Itachi, Sasori, and Kisame.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't say Omoi isn't strong. I mean for all we know, he could be oe of the strongest ninjas from the Hidden Cloud, also, Ittan doesn't seem to be a slouch either. And who are you to call Kakuzu one of the weaker ones? That dude is beastly.
I wasn't saying Omoi isn't strong, just not akatsuki strong. I mean, Orochimaru as strong as he is, was a member of akatsuki, and he wasn't even the strongest one. sasori/itachi/kisame could all take him in a fight I'd say.


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The bolded. Seriously. I think he was one of the stronger ones alongside Pain, Itachi, Sasori, and Kisame.
Yes, kakuzu was strong, but a lot of akatsuki is stronger, so by default he was one of the 'weaker' ones. Heck, aside from zetzu, and maaaaaybe hidan (personally I'd put him about equal with hidan) I'd say he WAS the weakest. sasori/kisame/itachi/diedara/konan/pain are all stronger than kakuzu overall. kakuzu had versatility and range, but his actual battle skills weren't exactly all that impressive, which is why he relied on having 5 hearts.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:30 PM
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I wasn't saying Omoi isn't strong, just not akatsuki strong. I mean, Orochimaru as strong as he is, was a member of akatsuki, and he wasn't even the strongest one. sasori/itachi/kisame could all take him in a fight I'd say.




Yes, kakuzu was strong, but a lot of akatsuki is stronger, so by default he was one of the 'weaker' ones. Heck, aside from zetzu, and maaaaaybe hidan (personally I'd put him about equal with hidan) I'd say he WAS the weakest. sasori/kisame/itachi/diedara/konan/pain are all stronger than kakuzu overall. kakuzu had versatility and range, but his actual battle skills weren't exactly all that impressive, which is why he relied on having 5 hearts.
Kakuzu is a hell lot stronger than Hidan.
Hidan is imo, the weakest of the akatsuki
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