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Old 10-11-2010, 01:23 AM
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Naruto Cup: Round 4 Uzumaki Naruto vs. Akimichi Chouji

For the rules and scenario, go here. This thread will contain only new information.

Chouji:
Chouji is at full power, healed to 100% after his battle with Jiroubou. No restrictions.

Naruto:
Naruto is at full power, healed to 100% after his battle with Kimimaro. No summoning and 50 clone limit. Clones cannot use Kyuubi chakra.

Kiba was the declared the winner vs. Sakon and Rock Lee is the champion of the Konohamaru Cup.

Can Chouji's raw power trump Naruto's strength in numbers? Or will Chouji find himself overwhelmed Naruto's tricky style? It's a battle between two members of the Sasuke Retrieval Team. Let's do this thing.
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:34 PM
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No restrictions means Choji can go Pills. Clones can't use Kyuubi chakra means Naruto's main body can? Am I reading that correctly?
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Old 10-11-2010, 06:37 PM
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No restrictions means Choji can go Pills. Clones can't use Kyuubi chakra means Naruto's main body can? Am I reading that correctly?
That is correct.
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:08 PM
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Under heavy motivation, Choji has no problems whatsoever with blindly going "bull in a china shop" on an opponent, and just try and human boulder the **** out of the opponent. Naruto eats opponents like that for breakfast.

The pills would be a problem, but I don't see him surviving long enough to use them, nor have an opinion of Naruto high enough to risk the damage from them. Choji never saw Naruto beat Neji, he only saw Naruto beat Kiba by ****ing at him.

Choji winds up in a tightly coiled pile in the yard.

EDIT: REALLY? THEY CENSOR F-A-R-T? REALLY?
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:38 AM
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Under heavy motivation, Choji has no problems whatsoever with blindly going "bull in a china shop" on an opponent, and just try and human boulder the **** out of the opponent. Naruto eats opponents like that for breakfast.

The pills would be a problem, but I don't see him surviving long enough to use them, nor have an opinion of Naruto high enough to risk the damage from them. Choji never saw Naruto beat Neji, he only saw Naruto beat Kiba by ****ing at him.

Choji winds up in a tightly coiled pile in the yard.

EDIT: REALLY? THEY CENSOR F-A-R-T? REALLY?
choji isn't stupid. he knows about naruto's clone tricks, but the only trick naruto can possibly do in a fight like this is try to get choji focused on the wrong clone and use up his chakra. even 50 regular narutos can't hold a candle to choji with the pills. choji wouldn't even need his human boulder after the second pill. now, if naruto uses kyuubi chakra, he can't use clones because choji will know they aren't the real naruto. the question is, how far is naruto allowed to use the kyuubi chakra. I would assume no tails because that would just be unfair distribution of power. if naruto can only use the orange glow version of kyuubi chakra, I don't think he's a match for choji at 3 pills. the amount of strength that choji has at that level is beyond anyone else we've seen in the manga. jirobo was able to hold choji up when he was gigantic. choji would have weighed at least a few tons at that size, and choji at 3 pills makes jirobo's strength look like child's play. 1 hit would kill naruto. and choji is also redonk fast at 3 pills. I'd wager faster than kyuubi naruto. I actually give this fight to choji.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:16 PM
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i have more to say but i will hold back for now. im just here to say, yes, no tails for naruto. furthest he can go is what he did against sasuke/haku...fangs, claws, fangs, red eyes.
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:54 PM
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choji isn't stupid. he knows about naruto's clone tricks, but the only trick naruto can possibly do in a fight like this is try to get choji focused on the wrong clone and use up his chakra. even 50 regular narutos can't hold a candle to choji with the pills. choji wouldn't even need his human boulder after the second pill. now, if naruto uses kyuubi chakra, he can't use clones because choji will know they aren't the real naruto. the question is, how far is naruto allowed to use the kyuubi chakra. I would assume no tails because that would just be unfair distribution of power. if naruto can only use the orange glow version of kyuubi chakra, I don't think he's a match for choji at 3 pills. the amount of strength that choji has at that level is beyond anyone else we've seen in the manga. jirobo was able to hold choji up when he was gigantic. choji would have weighed at least a few tons at that size, and choji at 3 pills makes jirobo's strength look like child's play. 1 hit would kill naruto. and choji is also redonk fast at 3 pills. I'd wager faster than kyuubi naruto. I actually give this fight to choji.
The problem is that like I said, Choji might not even get a chance to use the piils. Naruto's preferred target for the rasengan is a slow moving large target, exactly what Choji is. And if the rasengan can prevent Kabuto from moving, despite him healing immidiately on impact, I don't see Choji getting up from it.

Choji would use the pills as a last resort. Think of it in terms of percentage. Choji would only use the pills at 50% of his strength remaining or lower, otherwise using them willy-nilly is dangerous. A rasengan might be enough to KO him at nearly full health.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:09 PM
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The problem is that like I said, Choji might not even get a chance to use the piils. Naruto's preferred target for the rasengan is a slow moving large target, exactly what Choji is. And if the rasengan can prevent Kabuto from moving, despite him healing immidiately on impact, I don't see Choji getting up from it.

Choji would use the pills as a last resort. Think of it in terms of percentage. Choji would only use the pills at 50% of his strength remaining or lower, otherwise using them willy-nilly is dangerous. A rasengan might be enough to KO him at nearly full health.
uh, yeah, and naruto always starts his fights with rasengan/sarcasm. naruto wouldn't just start abusing rasengan either, since it takes a lot of chakra, I mean he can only use a few of them and he's done. and what makes you think choji wouldn't use the pills right away? that's no different than saying 'lee wouldn't take off his weights unless it was absolutely neccessary' which is a lie. the pills aren't harmful to choji unless he goes to the 3rd pill. and at the 2nd pill, choji is more dangerous up close than naruto is, so it's not likely that naruto would rush in with a rasengan, especially since choji can just use expansion to close the distance between himself and naruto in a split second, the impact sending naruto flying back. choji is not without his own level of trickery. and since in order to lose, naruto has to KILL him, choji isn't going to have reserves about using the 3rd pill either. As long as he kills naruto before the pills kill him, choji gets the win.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:34 PM
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uh, yeah, and naruto always starts his fights with rasengan/sarcasm. naruto wouldn't just start abusing rasengan either, since it takes a lot of chakra, I mean he can only use a few of them and he's done. and what makes you think choji wouldn't use the pills right away? that's no different than saying 'lee wouldn't take off his weights unless it was absolutely neccessary' which is a lie. the pills aren't harmful to choji unless he goes to the 3rd pill. and at the 2nd pill, choji is more dangerous up close than naruto is, so it's not likely that naruto would rush in with a rasengan, especially since choji can just use expansion to close the distance between himself and naruto in a split second, the impact sending naruto flying back. choji is not without his own level of trickery. and since in order to lose, naruto has to KILL him, choji isn't going to have reserves about using the 3rd pill either. As long as he kills naruto before the pills kill him, choji gets the win.
bold: pics or it didn't happen. a limit has never been given on rasengan, and it was never said, to my knowledge, that it takes "a lot of chakra". and the difference between little naruto and shippuuden naruto is just 1 stamina point, and shippuuden naruto fairly recently just spammed the **** out of rasengan against the fox <made a crap ton of clones then had them all use rasengan on it>

EDIT: also remember he can use the 9 tailed foxes chakra. naruto basically has 0 restrictions when it comes to how much chakra his jutsu take

underline: not true, every pill causes harm to him. i recently read chouji vs jirobo while having a discussion with kelvin to clear things up in preparation for this match. after taking one pill and stopping jirobo he mentioned how bad the pain was saying something like "i didn't think using one pill would hurt this much". then after using his super duper mega multi whale size jutsu, the pain made him nearly immobile. then he was forced to take the 3rd pill and, as you know, nearly died if he hadn't received medical attention from tsuande herself with the help of the nara big book o' medical stuff.

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Old 10-14-2010, 09:01 AM
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bold: pics or it didn't happen. a limit has never been given on rasengan, and it was never said, to my knowledge, that it takes "a lot of chakra". and the difference between little naruto and shippuuden naruto is just 1 stamina point, and shippuuden naruto fairly recently just spammed the **** out of rasengan against the fox <made a crap ton of clones then had them all use rasengan on it>

EDIT: also remember he can use the 9 tailed foxes chakra. naruto basically has 0 restrictions when it comes to how much chakra his jutsu take

underline: not true, every pill causes harm to him. i recently read chouji vs jirobo while having a discussion with kelvin to clear things up in preparation for this match. after taking one pill and stopping jirobo he mentioned how bad the pain was saying something like "i didn't think using one pill would hurt this much". then after using his super duper mega multi whale size jutsu, the pain made him nearly immobile. then he was forced to take the 3rd pill and, as you know, nearly died if he hadn't received medical attention from tsuande herself with the help of the nara big book o' medical stuff.
that was in SAGE MODE, massive difference in chakra usage. and you are right though, since he can use the fox chakra he can use plenty of rasengans I guess.

saying "I didn't think it would hurt this much' doesn't neccessarily mean it was excruciating pain. the 2nd pill, okay, he was immobile, but that took a minute or two AND he was getting pummeled by jirobo, who is much stronger than naruto. and yes, pill 3 is dangerous, but like I said, he hits naruto 1 time and he wins. and at pill 3 he is WAY faster than naruto. I mean he went from 'on the ground in front of jirobo' to standing several feet behind him in a fraction of a second.
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