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View Poll Results: What's your feelings on the newest Rogue List?
Like it! 43 53.09%
Don't like it! 20 24.69%
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:03 AM
OneWingedAngel OneWingedAngel is offline
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Baki's pretty bad, but Current and Miroku are only solid at the moment. earlygame flush with Current can be devastating when done right, but it's far too inconsistent at 1 to be too much of a problem.

As for Miroku, Fire and Water are the only Decks that can run her without much issue, and even then she can't be brought out consistently being limited to 1. The new Iruka helps with that, but let's be honest, there aren't many players who are going to run that for the sole purpose of getting Miroku out.
Current is a luck sack card, that if you get it in your opening hand you can win by turn 3 with rush. Not consistent, but it feels like an issue to me.

Baki is a staple that can win games. Even with the moving ninjas he still forces everyone to have to play around him. When you get to turn 4 you always have to play assuming your opponent's going to drop him. If you don't play like that you could just lose to Baki. He makes the game stupid.

My problem with Miroku is that he hinders new dck types. After rotaion we will have wide openarea of oppurtunity to expand how this game can be played. Mostly with how the reinforcement deck can be used. I would love to see Hidan decks and Kakuzu deck, but it's hard when Miroku shuts down the reinforcment deck by itself. The only way you can get rid of her is to either use bad missions or give up a drop. Platoons were already hard to use, Miroku makes them unplayable. She just bad for the game environment. IMO
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:29 AM
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Current is a luck sack card, that if you get it in your opening hand you can win by turn 3 with rush. Not consistent, but it feels like an issue to me.

If you lose because you got currented then you fail. People can come back from loosing 1 ninja, not that hard.

Baki is a staple that can win games. Even with the moving ninjas he still forces everyone to have to play around him. When you get to turn 4 you always have to play assuming your opponent's going to drop him. If you don't play like that you could just lose to Baki. He makes the game stupid.

Key word is COULD. Most people can play around Baki and still win. Most people can get hit by Baki and still win. If you can't you are a bad player. Baki just helps winning situations win faster. If you are already losing, Baki does nothing.

My problem with Miroku is that he hinders new deck types. After rotation we will have wide open area of opportunity to expand how this game can be played. Mostly with how the reinforcement deck can be used. I would love to see Hidan decks and Kakuzu deck, but it's hard when Miroku shuts down the reinforcement deck by itself. The only way you can get rid of her is to either use bad missions or give up a drop. Platoons were already hard to use, Miroku makes them unplayable. She just bad for the game environment. IMO

We've discussed Miroku and I think your wrong, but your argument has merit.

You don't have to miss drop or play bad missions to beat Miroku. Killer shot from WoF for two generic. Reconfirmation from BP for fire. The Next Target from WoF for Water and Earth. Monju from WoF kills clients, and Kigiri from WoF will negate it for a turn. Obviously for the ninjas you would have to activate the effects the turn after, but they are still answers. All splashable and all not subpar....

Answers in bold. Everything can be played around or have a counter. If you get Miroku banned, you are not gonna be happy.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:31 AM
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i love the rogue list i just wish you guys add ten k snake waves and shika u. because those cards gives too much advantage when used especially snake waves. even late game snake waves is way too power full.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:33 AM
Mud Master Mud Master is offline
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wow that reprint ino is a good start for my female deck and combine with ya***o kurama will make my enemies get -4/+0 awesome
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:39 AM
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Answers in bold. Everything can be played around or have a counter. If you get Miroku banned, you are not gonna be happy.
QFT.

BTW, the new shino from WoF is also a pretty good answer....i try to splash him into my decks, and he works amazingly.....
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:50 AM
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QFT.

BTW, the new shino from WoF is also a pretty good answer....i try to splash him into my decks, and he works amazingly.....
The only issue with that is that you lose a ninja for that effect, so basically the get the same effect of you either losing a drop or losing the effect off of one ninja.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:55 AM
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Ino i still dont see her seeing too much play other drops are more important i still like pressing ino the best.

Jutsu eh i still like howl better personally but i guess if you build you deck some what around it.

As for people complaining about baki i see a lot of decks now don't even run him anymore.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:58 AM
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Like the new Jutsu.
Don't care about the reprint Ino
Mixed feelings (leaning toward negative) about the new rogue list.

Andy, do you guys have any intention of updating the unlimited format rogue list? or do you guys just not give a rass at's about unlimited? should we just assume its the same as the block list?
Currently, the Unlimited list will mirror Block, they will vary post-GenCon this year.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:01 AM
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Current is a luck sack card, that if you get it in your opening hand you can win by turn 3 with rush. Not consistent, but it feels like an issue to me.

Baki is a staple that can win games. Even with the moving ninjas he still forces everyone to have to play around him. When you get to turn 4 you always have to play assuming your opponent's going to drop him. If you don't play like that you could just lose to Baki. He makes the game stupid.

My problem with Miroku is that he hinders new dck types. After rotaion we will have wide openarea of oppurtunity to expand how this game can be played. Mostly with how the reinforcement deck can be used. I would love to see Hidan decks and Kakuzu deck, but it's hard when Miroku shuts down the reinforcment deck by itself. The only way you can get rid of her is to either use bad missions or give up a drop. Platoons were already hard to use, Miroku makes them unplayable. She just bad for the game environment. IMO
Sorry sir baki is not a staple even shika U has been seeing less play recently.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:01 AM
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Currently, the Block list will mirror Block, thery will vary post-GenCon this year.
don't you mean unlimited will mirror block?
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