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Old 02-26-2008, 05:11 PM
OneWingedAngel OneWingedAngel is offline
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I kind of agree that Shika has ruin a bunch of cards, but Gaara TN is the real reason people run him. Either Gaara gets negated or he's forced to be a back ninja. And then Choji gets run because Shika is a must.
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:59 PM
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Here is the complete list of ninja cards that have been rendered useless by this sin against the game, now not all of them were real powers to begin with but among them are some interesting cards--
(Note only ones that need to be head ninjas to be most effective are included)

Path:
Choji (chubby)
Naruto (Imposter)
Naruto (Nine-tailed Chakra)
Sasuke (Open your Eyes)
Kiba (Combination)
Kakashi (Confidence in Subordinates)
Zabuza (Zero Visability Thick Fog)-----------------------------
Zabuza (Demon of the Hidden Mist Village)--------------

Coils:
Naruto (Misplaced Anger)
Naruto (Strength in a Crisis)--------------------
Dosu (Sonic Impact)---------------------------
Gaara (Auto Guard)
Sasuke (Analysis of Competence)--------------------
Sasuke (Power of the Curse Mark)
Choji (Original Formation)
Oboro (Endless Genjutsu)
Anko (Forbidden Jutsu)

Curse:
Sasuke (Flowering Ability)
Sasuke (Fire Style!)
Sasuke (Windmill of Shadows)
Choji (Human Sphere)
Rock Lee (Releasing the Gates)------------------------------
Neji (Attack on a Chakra Point)
Might Guy (Passionate Teacher)
Naruto (Last Minute Success)
Suien (Easy Power)---------------------------

R & R:
Sasuke (Engergizing the Body)
Sasuke (Beyond the Limits)-------------------------------
Naruto (Control of Power)-------------------------
Neji (Another Method for Absolute Protection)--------------------

Dream Legacy:
Itachi (True Heir to the Sharingan)---------------------------
Might Guy (Countermeasure Against the Sharingan)
Asuma (Reliable Comrade)
Tsume (Combination)----------------------------------
Kabuto (Impact of the Jutsu)

Eternal Rivalry:
Naruto (Overflowing Power)
Sasuke (Chidori for the Revenge)
Sasuke (Power of the Curse Mark)
Neji (Another Perfect Defense)
Rock Lee (Lotus of the Leaf)
Rock Lee (High Speed Move)
Might Guy (Unique Teaching Method)
Gaara (Power of Shukaku)
Zabuza (Roar of the Ogre)--------------------------------
Kisame (Chakra Eater Sword)
Naruto & Gamabunta (Reversed Relationship)
Shukaku (Fulll Possession)

Quest for Power:
Naruto (Rivalry)
Naruto (Sturdy Courage)
Naruto (Remarkable Growth)
Sasuke (Rivalry)----------------------------
Choji (The Last Piece)
Neji (Fighting with Determination)
Gaara (Sand Protection)--------------------------
Jiraiya & Tsunade (Living Legends)
Jiraiya (The Ones Who Stand)
Tsunade (The One Who Protects the Big Tree)-----------------

Battle of Destiny:
Sasuke (The Thirst for Power)----------------------------
Rock Lee & Might Guy (Master and Pupil)-----------------
Rock Lee (The Fifth Gate Opened)
Rock Lee (Drunk)------------------------
Jiriaya (Mission for Adults)
Kamikiri (Huge Sheers)
Tsunade (A Tasteless and Odorless Drug)--------------------------
Neji (Better Insight then Sharingan Eye)
Neji (For Those Who Believe in Me) ***His primary use is ruined but hes still used as gaara fuel so hes still worth being on this list

Promos etc:
Sasuke (Battle Sense)
Sasuke (Genius Clan)
Sasuke (Firm Determination)
Sasuke (Favorite Ninja Art)
Sasuke (Precious Fellow)
Naruto (Precious Fellow)
Naruto (Angry Roar)
Naruto (Drastic Reversal)
Naruto (For My Teacher)
Neji (Insight)



Now some of these cards still see use, but the assumption has to be made that everyone uses the formation shiki. All of these cards get shut down to worthlessness or near worthlessness by him. Many could have provided interesting ideas for decks but are just ignored because he just makes it bad. Now I didn't include some cards that are affected, but not enough to stop their use (Like Tragic Name and Choji Formation). Oh and if I forgot any, or you want to debate some that were included feel free to.

No one card has ruined so many in the game of Naruto as Shiki Formation


And the lines indicate, out of ALL of those cards, the ones that have been used before. By ANYONE.
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:06 PM
rocklee10 rocklee10 is offline
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And the lines indicate, out of ALL of those cards, the ones that have been used before. By ANYONE.
Their was a guy at my tourny that used Sasuke BS lol
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:08 PM
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And the lines indicate, out of ALL of those cards, the ones that have been used before. By ANYONE.
Many cards on that list are ones that never got a chance because of formation. And Rock Lee the 5th gate opened is actually quite interesting since he isn't totally ruined by getting pinged by Choji....except shiki makes him dirt. Shiki ruins creativity in deck design.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:10 PM
Ero-Sannin Ero-Sannin is offline
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To the tard who said "Shika kills CoP"

You're a tard.

Shika is a good card, but remember when he didn't have Gaara TN, what Shika were we all using? Formation?

No, Flexibility.

The real reason Formation is so good and commonly ran is because of Gaara/Shika/Chou, not becuase "Formation shutsdown everything"

-Near

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Old 02-26-2008, 07:12 PM
toushin1101 toushin1101 is offline
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i dont know about any1 else but this is just boring



im just gonna run shika flex and end it there on my end

then soon people will say shika flex is nuking alot of cards
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:13 PM
reddragondecease reddragondecease is offline
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And the lines indicate, out of ALL of those cards, the ones that have been used before. By ANYONE.
Because Sasuke [Windmill of Shadows] and Rock Lee [HSM] are never used by FPS. And Choji [Chubby]/Naruto [Imposter/NTC] were pretty darn good back in the Curse days, which had a few people playing back then, methinks.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:18 PM
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Shikamaru USF murdered my dreams. That is until I got a Garra TN and me and shika became great pals with our friend garra.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:19 PM
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To the tard who said "Shika kills CoP"

You're a tard.

Shika is a good card, but remember when he didn't have Gaara TN, what Shika were we all using? Formation?

No, Flexibility.

The real reason Formation is so good and commonly ran is because of Gaara/Shika/Chou, not becuase "Formation shutsdown everything"

-Near

(Lol, I can do that too, Zero!)
uhh, Tre, i seem to recall running Flex not because Formation sucked, but because Flex wasn't Ino's *****.

Formation always had the stronger effect. it just became more apparent when Gaara came into play.

that said, Formation Shika is a nuisance, sure. but would you rather get run over by Freedori again? borderline broken, sure, but absolutely necessary to keep cards that are much more disruptive in check.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:22 PM
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uhh, Tre, i seem to recall running Flex not because Formation sucked, but because Flex wasn't Ino's *****.

Formation always had the stronger effect. it just became more apparent when Gaara came into play.

that said, Formation Shika is a nuisance, sure. but would you rather get run over by Freedori again? borderline broken, sure, but absolutely necessary to keep cards that are much more disruptive in check.
Yup Yup.
I ran Flexy because Ino was flippin' unbelievable.

I still think BtL needs an errata. He's incredibly broken...
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