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Old 02-26-2008, 03:47 PM
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List of cards Murdered by Shikamaru USF

Here is the complete list of ninja cards that have been rendered useless by this sin against the game, now not all of them were real powers to begin with but among them are some interesting cards--
(Note only ones that need to be head ninjas to be most effective are included)

Path:
Choji (chubby)
Naruto (Imposter)
Naruto (Nine-tailed Chakra)
Sasuke (Open your Eyes)
Kiba (Combination)
Kakashi (Confidence in Subordinates)
Zabuza (Zero Visability Thick Fog)
Zabuza (Demon of the Hidden Mist Village)

Coils:
Naruto (Misplaced Anger)
Naruto (Strength in a Crisis)
Dosu (Sonic Impact)
Gaara (Auto Guard)
Sasuke (Analysis of Competence)
Sasuke (Power of the Curse Mark)
Choji (Original Formation)
Oboro (Endless Genjutsu)
Anko (Forbidden Jutsu)

Curse:
Sasuke (Flowering Ability)
Sasuke (Fire Style!)
Sasuke (Windmill of Shadows)
Choji (Human Sphere)
Rock Lee (Releasing the Gates)
Neji (Attack on a Chakra Point)
Might Guy (Passionate Teacher)
Naruto (Last Minute Success)
Suien (Easy Power)

R & R:
Sasuke (Engergizing the Body)
Sasuke (Beyond the Limits)
Naruto (Control of Power)
Neji (Another Method for Absolute Protection)

Dream Legacy:
Itachi (True Heir to the Sharingan)
Might Guy (Countermeasure Against the Sharingan)
Asuma (Reliable Comrade)
Tsume (Combination)
Kabuto (Impact of the Jutsu)

Eternal Rivalry:
Naruto (Overflowing Power)
Sasuke (Chidori for the Revenge)
Sasuke (Power of the Curse Mark)
Neji (Another Perfect Defense)
Rock Lee (Lotus of the Leaf)
Rock Lee (High Speed Move)
Might Guy (Unique Teaching Method)
Gaara (Power of Shukaku)
Zabuza (Roar of the Ogre)
Kisame (Chakra Eater Sword)
Naruto & Gamabunta (Reversed Relationship)
Shukaku (Fulll Possession)

Quest for Power:
Naruto (Rivalry)
Naruto (Sturdy Courage)
Naruto (Remarkable Growth)
Sasuke (Rivalry)
Choji (The Last Piece)
Neji (Fighting with Determination)
Gaara (Sand Protection)
Jiraiya & Tsunade (Living Legends)
Jiraiya (The Ones Who Stand)
Tsunade (The One Who Protects the Big Tree)

Battle of Destiny:
Sasuke (The Thirst for Power)
Rock Lee & Might Guy (Master and Pupil)
Rock Lee (The Fifth Gate Opened)
Rock Lee (Drunk)
Jiriaya (Mission for Adults)
Kamikiri (Huge Sheers)
Tsunade (A Tasteless and Odorless Drug)
Neji (Better Insight then Sharingan Eye)
Neji (For Those Who Believe in Me) ***His primary use is ruined but hes still used as gaara fuel so hes still worth being on this list

Promos etc:
Sasuke (Battle Sense)
Sasuke (Genius Clan)
Sasuke (Firm Determination)
Sasuke (Favorite Ninja Art)
Sasuke (Precious Fellow)
Naruto (Precious Fellow)
Naruto (Angry Roar)
Naruto (Drastic Reversal)
Naruto (For My Teacher)
Neji (Insight)



Now some of these cards still see use, but the assumption has to be made that everyone uses the formation shiki. All of these cards get shut down to worthlessness or near worthlessness by him. Many could have provided interesting ideas for decks but are just ignored because he just makes it bad. Now I didn't include some cards that are affected, but not enough to stop their use (Like Tragic Name and Choji Formation). Oh and if I forgot any, or you want to debate some that were included feel free to.

No one card has ruined so many in the game of Naruto as Shiki Formation
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:52 PM
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and you're stupid for saying anything about this...shikamaru is JUST a good card...not so amazing that hes game breaking....he bring balance to the meta...and tons of the cards on your list are horribly unplayable...simple as that...so he ruins a few good cards and gives people even MORE of a reason to not run bad cards =/
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:00 PM
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I playtested over 30 Duels using usF Cards, and Shikamaru turned out to be the weakest. Ino was the best. She can really screw your opponent out of attacking.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:06 PM
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How about cards that get murdered by Gaara [Tragic Name]

all.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:14 PM
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How about cards that get murdered by Gaara [Tragic Name]

all.
Except Naruto/Sasuke SP

This is almost the same as the thread "Let's list all of the draw cards," which was useless. I think people know what he does.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:14 PM
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Except Naruto/Sasuke SP

This is almost the same as the thread "Let's list all of the draw cards," which was useless. I think people know what he does.



Filler
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:15 PM
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How about cards that get murdered by Gaara [Tragic Name]

all.
Nope Nope. Only those with any attack of 4 and less.

Gaara needs another ninja, then he can almost destroy anything.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:42 PM
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and you're stupid for saying anything about this...shikamaru is JUST a good card...not so amazing that hes game breaking....he bring balance to the meta...and tons of the cards on your list are horribly unplayable...simple as that...so he ruins a few good cards and gives people even MORE of a reason to not run bad cards =/
Not game breaking? He killed Naruto COP, and i'm going to me very friggin ticked if the first good water 0 drop is week with a good effect, then he'll just die to Shika also.

He dosen't need errata or anything, but hes the best turn 1 card in the game, and hes mandatory in every deck.
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:48 PM
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and you're stupid for saying anything about this...shikamaru is JUST a good card...not so amazing that hes game breaking....he bring balance to the meta...and tons of the cards on your list are horribly unplayable...simple as that...so he ruins a few good cards and gives people even MORE of a reason to not run bad cards =/
Stupid? I think a well presented personal opinion put up for public review and spirited debate is anything but that...to say otherwise is, ignorant.

But personally, Shika Ino Choji are in my deck because they are good for my game - I don't use Gaara TN but I do use Gaara CK why? Because I don't have any TN's if I had some would I use them - probably. But, if these cards are seen as a problem by long standing established players gametesters ect - then something should be done to "fix" them. So that other cards will get a second look. I like putting cards together and trying them out it's boring to play with the same cards time and time again. But, that's just my thought. But I win loose and draw : < shoot! WHERES that Gaara!
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:09 PM
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Not game breaking? He killed Naruto COP, and i'm going to me very friggin ticked if the first good water 0 drop is week with a good effect, then he'll just die to Shika also.

He dosen't need errata or anything, but hes the best turn 1 card in the game, and hes mandatory in every deck.
He's only mandatory in every deck because of Gaara. Gaara is a bane on this game and needs to be taken care of shortly after the All Things Fun Jonin.
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