Why only 25 ninja per deck?

[Kyle81]

The restrictions are in place for the reasons I stated before, and also the important aspect of deck building. If you were allowed an all ninja deck, you realize that this means that a player can simply pick and choose all the best ninjas in the game and put them in one deck?

What does the 25 ninja limit do? The limit forces a player to make use of missions and Jutsu. Jutsu have Chakra requirements, as well as certain Jutsu only work with certain Ninja. Because your forced to take Jutsu and Missions, this causes players to have to balance their decks for specific factions, themes, etc.

Having no ninja limit means you can mix and toss in every powerful ninja from every single type of ninja/elemental symbol in one single deck. If I'm using lots of FIRE JUTSU cards in my deck, then I should be using the right ninja cards as well as cards that provide the correct Chakra type. All cards can turn in Chakra including ninjas, so its important to have the right types in your deck.

These rules prevent a player from simply making a deck of all the best cards as you are forced to play with certain factions/types of cards. Almost every CCG forces players to use some form of resource management and for balance, the use of factions/sides in a game. Naruto does not have resource management like most games, and as such the ninja limit helps impose those limits the game needs to prevent a big min max fest.

[Jyoushiro]

Don't get me wrong, I understand completely what you're talking about, I just don't think that deck contruction rules should be so ridgid. If they want people to use jutsu over mass ninjas, make jutsus good enough so that you'd want to balence them rather than just say "PLAY JUTSUS OR ELSE!".

I agree, a player shouldn't just be able to gather the best cards in the format and win with it but as long as the best cards in the format aren't all ninja, that shouldn't be a problem right? I guess when the game launches i'll have to make an all ninja deck just to see how broken it is.

[Kyle81]

How is a 25 ninja limit "rigid".

Seriously, I've never played a CCG where all you do is fill a deck up tons of monsters/units/creatures and nothing else.

And again, I'll say it again. Without the limit, you would just have a bunch of random ninja tossed in.

It's like playing Magic and being allowed to just toss in creatures from all colors in one deck, without any concern for resource management or deck construction. That would be broken.

[Chronomaster]

Zatch Bell with 32 (31, actually) Mamodos. EWW.

25 does seem a BIT arbitrary, but chances are it's for the best. I don't see myself going up to 25 anyways unless I'm just starting.

[onceaprep]

Just look at the cards and make sure you understand just have fun with the game. The rules are there for a reason.

[Jyoushiro]

Originally Posted by Kyle81

How is a 25 ninja limit "rigid".

It is because the rules specifically state you can't do it. It means, if I came up with an awesome idea for a deck that called for a few more than 25 ninja, I can't do it.

Seriously, I've never played a CCG where all you do is fill a deck up tons of monsters/units/creatures and nothing else.

And neither have I but the difference is that in most games you can. No one is stopping you from playing a deck of all creatures in MTG or all Monsters in YGO, it would make for a really crappy deck, but you could do it if you really wanted to.

And again, I'll say it again. Without the limit, you would just have a bunch of random ninja tossed in.

That's not really true. It's not like if there was no limit you'd be forced to run 40 ninja, you would have a choice. Just like how with the limit you can always run less than 25. But if I just wanted to run say 28 or 29, I can't.

It's like playing Magic and being allowed to just toss in creatures from all colors in one deck, without any concern for resource management or deck construction. That would be broken.

If you could play a deck of all creatures of any color but could only play 1 per turn and could only play 1 mana creatures on turn 1, 2 mana on turn 2, etc. depending on the format, it wouldn't be broken. Any decent T1 deck would rip it to shreds. Probably some Extended decks too.

I'm not saying it makes the game bad, I just think there are better ways they could have handled it.

[Kyle81]

Originally Posted by Jyoushiro

And neither have I but the difference is that in most games you can. No one is stopping you from playing a deck of all creatures in MTG or all Monsters in YGO, it would make for a really crappy deck, but you could do it if you really wanted to

Not crappy decks, completely unplayable decks.

[Chronomaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle81

Not crappy decks, completely unplayable decks.

Well, if you had 60 Ornithopters and no 4 card limit...

[NightScythe]

that's a stupid rule. maybe they just don't want people to suffocate their decks with a bunch of ninja and nothing else.

[Joshua]

Jyoushiro, say the limit was 30 ninja, and you came up with a great idea for a deck with 31 ninja? Or say you came up for a great idea for a deck of 42 cards? There's always going to be some restriction on what you can do, whether it be in the rules or whether it be in the actual playability of a certain "strategy", like an all monster YGO deck. Naruto just happens to have this restriction in the rules, and there's really no sense in arguing about it, since the rules are not going to change to accommodate a higher ninja limit (at least anytime soon).