Why?

[Xyliex]

Originally Posted by Sai'ix Renkai

Why? So we don't have an ability to slow down your opponent?

honestly i feel it hurts your opponent so much and takes away from so many decks. i feel we deserve a client that says "your missions cannot be negated or removed from play by your opponents effects" just so that there is an answer to pesky counter missions.

im sure everyone has had a grind your teeth moment where your mission you needed got negated. its annoying. i understand they are necessary but i just personally feel that missions are vital part to any deck and mission hate is not cool.

[Xyliex]

Originally Posted by Earthbullet

dont bother its a never ending argument 1st it starts there isnt enough mission negate, then its only in this element make more, then wait too much cut it back, its a never ending argument just like with the power level of 6+ drops.

in all due respect i agree with most of what you post on these forums but i was asked a question and i think it's fair i answer it. you guys can think im an idiot for my answer but i would like to share my opinion.

its a cardgame and the players will always complain. if we agree or not is besides the point. we all have different opinions about the game and i dont think this thread has been made to rage but for a simple "hey, i like this deck, why doesnt it see more play"

[Earthbullet]

Originally Posted by Xyliex

in all due respect i agree with most of what you post on these forums but i was asked a question and i think it's fair i answer it. you guys can think im an idiot for my answer but i would like to share my opinion.

its a cardgame and the players will always complain. if we agree or not is besides the point. we all have different opinions about the game and i dont think this thread has been made to rage but for a simple "hey, i like this deck, why doesnt it see more play"

that wasn't supposed to be directed at you entirely it just seems lately the community asks for cards or answers to them, then when they come out its wtf thats too far tone it down.

We did answer why the deck doesnt see more play its because it caught people off guard when it first came out but once it lost the surprise factor the counters were easy to find and there are just a few too many for it to be competitive.

[Xyliex]

Originally Posted by Earthbullet

that wasn't supposed to be directed at you entirely it just seems lately the community asks for cards or answers to them, then when they come out its wtf thats too far tone it down.

We did answer why the deck doesnt see more play its because it caught people off guard when it first came out but once it lost the surprise factor the counters were easy to find and there are just a few too many for it to be competitive.

it's such a shame too because the amount of support it has is stupid.

honestly, when it comes to earth their themes get EVERYTHING it needs.

[Genre]

Permanent Earth is still a competitive deck. There are a few Permanent missions which are extremely annoying, and if you allow the deck to set up it's more of a lockdown than Void (if you let them get out all their Paths).

[OneWingedAngel]

Originally Posted by Xyliex

mission negates have to go imho.

I used to think that too, but I have realized that mission negation itself is fine. It's the massive draw we have along side that that makes it a problem.

If I negate your mission, I go -2 in hand to have you go -2 in hand and stop your turn, which should be fair. But, If I follow up with a Warhawk next turn and go +2, putting me right back on par. Now I have what I need and you're left to top decking. Ino Childhood does the same thing. I stop you from getting resources and then refill my hand.

[zbkillaz]

if we get better ways to stop mission negation perma earth could be better.

[Sai'ix Renkai]

Originally Posted by zbkillaz

if we get better ways to stop mission negation perma earth could be better.

It's still pretty good. You have enough missions in there that they can't possibly stop them all. Especially if you have a few different ones that discarding one still gets you an advantage while you have another in play.

[Xyliex]

Originally Posted by OneWingedAngel

I used to think that too, but I have realized that mission negation itself is fine. It's the massive draw we have along side that that makes it a problem.

If I negate your mission, I go -2 in hand to have you go -2 in hand and stop your turn, which should be fair. But, If I follow up with a Warhawk next turn and go +2, putting me right back on par. Now I have what I need and you're left to top decking. Ino Childhood does the same thing. I stop you from getting resources and then refill my hand.

Oh i know its really agrivating. Thats why i dont bother playing mission negtes because why run something like that when i can run a draw mission or path of the avenger or even guidance (on my opponents turn which is a draw in on its own) and late game a +1

[OneWingedAngel]

Originally Posted by Xyliex

Oh i know its really agrivating. Thats why i dont bother playing mission negtes because why run something like that when i can run a draw mission or path of the avenger or even guidance (on my opponents turn which is a draw in on its own) and late game a +1

Ideally you'd want to stop your opponent's mission and follow up with a plus the turn after. Then you draw into another mission negate and your opponent can't do anything.