State of the Game Address

[Genre]

Originally Posted by JDragon

Popular deck =/= brainless. Brainless is less decision making - aka being able to draw your whole deck and play 3-4 elements with no problems whatsoever every game.

And because the game was more balanced.

Brainless is definitely not playing an OTK (especially one like Brady's); if anything, it takes more skill and thought to use an OTK like that than it does a curve to Gaara O9K and spam jutsu!! Freedori was worse.

Your logic is so whacked out. There were at least two times as many competitive decks NOW in recent meta(s) than there were back then during the time periods of O9K and freedori. Stop trying to justify the game's integrity back then - it had none.

[JDragon]

Originally Posted by Genre

Brainless is definitely not playing an OTK (especially one like Brady's); if anything, it takes more skill and thought to use an OTK like that than it does a curve to Gaara O9K and spam jutsu!! Freedori was worse.

Your logic is so whacked out. There were at least two times as many competitive decks NOW in recent meta(s) than there were back then during the time periods of O9K and freedori. Stop trying to justify the game's integrity back then - it had none.

I was referring to the ANBU metagame and the path the game has taken afterwards (best illustrated by Warhawk, Kevin's mission, etc.), which I've reiterated multiple times.

I also already previously listed all the competitive decks that were present in the O9K metagame, but comprehension isn't your strong suit it seems.

It's cool that you know how to cherry pick Freedori and O9K as your only examples though (and O9K doesn't even count).

[zbkillaz]

lol don't yell at me, it's clear the game took more skill back in the first 13 sets, including freedori and O9K. when i see u sunday I shall educate .

[Genre]

Originally Posted by JDragon

I also already previously listed all the competitive decks that were present in the O9K metagame, but comprehension isn't your strong suit it seems.

How many of these other "competitive decks" were even close to top 16'ing Gencon that year besides fire/x dogs? lol

[JDragon]

Originally Posted by Genre

How many of these other "competitive decks" were even close to top 16'ing Gencon that year besides fire/x dogs? lol

Fire and Dogs were two separate decks. In fact there were several different variants of Fire.

Water and NVS also top 16'd. NVS won two Kages that season.

O9K was Tier 1 and super cheap to build (2 starters), of course it's going to form a large part of the metagame.

edit: Pretty sure DFC also topped, it had been making tops in the Kage season at least.

[Hiei_Zero]

Originally Posted by Genre

How many of these other "competitive decks" were even close to top 16'ing Gencon that year besides fire/x dogs? lol

Cute. Atleast 6 out of the top 16 decks were not o9k If i remember correctly, and 4 of them made top 8. I know I was one of them. That being said I would honestly take those days over the metas we have now the removal is too easy to use, and the skill factor is i curved out with 'insert busted jutsu here' and you missed a drop GG?

[Genre]

Originally Posted by Hiei_Zero

I would honestly take those days over the metas we have now the removal is too easy to use, and the skill factor is i curved out with 'insert busted jutsu here' and you missed a drop GG?

Removal too easy to use? Gaara's jutsus that bottom decked / sniped / damaged wasn't easy to use?? What about suicidal action?? Missing a drop does not mean you lose in this meta; and it didn't mean that in the O9K meta either.

I could have sworn that the O9K gencon layout was a top 16 of 2 fire decks and 14 O9K variants. If the deck ran the 4 drop Gaara, it was O9K for all I'm concerned. I may be slightly misinformed, but it still does not take away that the game was worse then.

[JDragon]

Originally Posted by Genre

Removal too easy to use? Gaara's jutsus that bottom decked / sniped / damaged wasn't easy to use?? What about suicidal action?? Missing a drop does not mean you lose in this meta; and it didn't mean that in the O9K meta either.

I could have sworn that the O9K gencon layout was a top 16 of 2 fire decks and 14 O9K variants. If the deck ran the 4 drop Gaara, it was O9K for all I'm concerned. I may be slightly misinformed, but it still does not take away that the game was worse then.

Try flat-out wrong on all accounts.

[zbkillaz]

Originally Posted by Genre

Removal too easy to use? Gaara's jutsus that bottom decked / sniped / damaged wasn't easy to use?? What about suicidal action?? Missing a drop does not mean you lose in this meta; and it didn't mean that in the O9K meta either.

I could have sworn that the O9K gencon layout was a top 16 of 2 fire decks and 14 O9K variants. If the deck ran the 4 drop Gaara, it was O9K for all I'm concerned. I may be slightly misinformed, but it still does not take away that the game was worse then.

I'm going to yell at you when I see you sunday.

I would also take the old naruto of the stuff we have now (though I am having quite a lot of fun with the current meta, it's the best it's been in a long time) It was a more fun game, and it required a lot more skill than now. I don't get how you could possibly disagree with that.

[Big Boy]

Originally Posted by Genre

Removal too easy to use? Gaara's jutsus that bottom decked / sniped / damaged wasn't easy to use?? What about suicidal action?? Missing a drop does not mean you lose in this meta; and it didn't mean that in the O9K meta either.

I could have sworn that the O9K gencon layout was a top 16 of 2 fire decks and 14 O9K variants. If the deck ran the 4 drop Gaara, it was O9K for all I'm concerned. I may be slightly misinformed, but it still does not take away that the game was worse then.

Scott it's ok they're all washed up, let them have there O9K (Which is the easiest deck to play in this game so far, right beside Freedori)