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Old 01-30-2013, 06:40 AM
SharinganHeir SharinganHeir is offline
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I doubt we'll see the 4 hokages enter the war. They were brought for Sasuke's own purpose, which has nothing to do with the war. My guess is Sasuke will gain something from them and perhaps it will be him or Oro who will turn the tides of the war, because honestly at the moment I don't see anyone capable of defeating Madara, Obito or the Juubi (which should be going out of control now).
You don't think 4 invincible hokages can stop Madara? When one has in the past and now has help?

I can't wait until the card game gets to this point. I want a deck of void hokages.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:10 AM
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You don't think 4 invincible hokages can stop Madara? When one has in the past and now has help?

I can't wait until the card game gets to this point. I want a deck of void hokages.
1st madara and 4th obito rematch would be interesting.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:33 AM
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You don't think 4 invincible hokages can stop Madara? When one has in the past and now has help?

I can't wait until the card game gets to this point. I want a deck of void hokages.
as long as madara is invincible he literally cannot be stopped. period. not even by 4 kages. also, madara, in his current state, is significantly more powerful than the first hokage is.

You seem to have forgotten that madara was not at his current level of power when Hashirama defeated him.

Powers that Madara has since then gained.

all rinnegan powers.
ultimate susano'o
mokuten
immortality
the ability to summon a massive f--ing meteor at will.

The first hokage no longer has any advantage against madara whatsoever.

I honestly don't want them to fight just because I think it would be stupid. But saying that the 4 kage could beat madara is a long shot that is not at all factually based.

now, granted, depending on whether or not they can use shiki fuujin in their edo tensei'd forms, the third or 4th hokage could potentially stop madara/obito by sealing them.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:09 AM
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I think its pretty interesting. The first hokage has fought madara in the past and has one before. He also has the ability to control tailed beasts. For the second hokage, we'll find out more about the edo tensai (maybe it's weakness!). Plus with both first and second, we could find out more about the reason the uchiha clan was mistrusted so much. Bringing the third and fourth back might also shed some light on the nine tailed fox attack and why the uchiha clan was segregated from the rest of the village. I also think the aforementioned fights would be awesome.

The fact that they are at the nakama shrine means that someone is going to read that stone tablet (I've been waiting for Kishi to reveal what it means while reading it using stronger eyes since it was first introduced at the end of the first series). I was expecting oro to use edo tensai to bring back some uchiha clan members, maybe even fugaku, mikoto, and itachi so that they could help convince sasuke to drop his vendetta. But anyway it rolls, I'm extremely excited that this side plot is finally being reveal (watch Kishi jumps back to the other fight now - facepalm).
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:56 AM
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One Piece: Gum gum (X) or (Someone close to Luffy) "I'll die right after I save you!"
If you think that's all OP is, you are certainly mistaken.

Also, I don't care what anyone says, Naruto just got a lot better. The mask thing was out of nowhere, but I like where this went. I also liked the fact that the way Sasuke stood was the same as how Naruto did. I really like how it's going right now.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:58 AM
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Other authors do it. Doesn't mean it's not an awful move. Instead of working with the 50+ characters he has, he goes back and either makes new ones just to have them die (See: the entire war to this point) or brings back old ones for no better reason than to shock fans. It's WWE pandering at its finest.
Yes, because we NEED 50+ other backstories fleshed out, 50+ other insane Kekkei Genkai revealed, and 50+ other allpowerful Jutsu launched at Tobi/Madara/Ten Tails. He's already introduced too many characters as it is. He brought back old ones because the 1st was a Mokuton Master, 2nd was creator of the Edo Tensei and someone who also knew Space/Time Ninjutsu, the 3rd who knows every Jutsu in the Leaf, and the 4th who mastered Space/Time and was a seal expert. Would you really rather find out that Tenten knew how to use RDS without sacrificing herself, or Random Sand Ninja #14 can make Ten Tails a puppet?

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as long as madara is invincible he literally cannot be stopped. period. not even by 4 kages. also, madara, in his current state, is significantly more powerful than the first hokage is.

You seem to have forgotten that madara was not at his current level of power when Hashirama defeated him.

Powers that Madara has since then gained.

all rinnegan powers.
ultimate susano'o
mokuten
immortality
the ability to summon a massive f--ing meteor at will.

The first hokage no longer has any advantage against madara whatsoever.

I honestly don't want them to fight just because I think it would be stupid. But saying that the 4 kage could beat madara is a long shot that is not at all factually based.

now, granted, depending on whether or not they can use shiki fuujin in their edo tensei'd forms, the third or 4th hokage could potentially stop madara/obito by sealing them.
All four of the Hokage are also immortal now, so Madara's advantages don't mean anything. It just wouldn't end.

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If you think that's all OP is, you are certainly mistaken.
I'm no where near caught up on One Piece, and I knew I was wrong. Just an exaggerated example.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'm no where near caught up on One Piece, and I knew I was wrong. Just an exaggerated example.
Never speak ill of Oda-san's work.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:25 PM
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wait a min with the 4th back could that mean he can seal the juubi into someone?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:42 PM
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Never speak ill of Oda-san's work.
I loved OP. I just got too far behind due to work. I'm still around 540. Isn't there near a thousand chapters now?

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:54 PM
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wait a min with the 4th back could that mean he can seal the juubi into someone?
Hopefully in rock lee so he can be ultimate taijutsu master
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