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Old 01-18-2013, 11:33 AM
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how can she be on the same chain if she triggered upon resolveing her effect would have to go on another new chain once all the other effect resolve
Turns begins:

Hotaru returns to play due to Flashpoint's resolved effect text. Due to her entering play, you add her "Draw 1, discard 1" effect to the chain.

Now you start adding all of the "At the start of the turn" effects.

Flashpoint returning her to play isn't an action that waits on the chain. It is the resolution of her prior use of Flashpoint. She comes straight back into play, which will trigger her put in play effect, which you then have to chain all of your at the start of the turn effects to or else you miss their timing.


It isn't:

Hotaru is returning to play now, her returning to play goes on the chain.

It is:

Hotaru returns to play. Her triggered effect from being put in play goes on the chain.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:49 AM
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And they ask me why I think MA judges give bad rulings.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:52 AM
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And they ask me why I think MA judges give bad rulings.
Who asks you this? I don't believe anyone would question that
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:57 AM
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Who asks you this? I don't believe anyone would question that
Coincidentally, MA/NE players.

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Thanks for calling me a bad judge since im the only judge in MASS *******s i kno my rulings lol
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what are these "accounts?"

*pulls up chair and starts the popcorn
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MJM, what rulings? Mardo was right on every ruling he's given. He is a great judge.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:01 PM
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Coincidentally, MA/NE players.
I beg to differ with those statements
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:21 PM
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Turns begins:

Hotaru returns to play due to Flashpoint's resolved effect text. Due to her entering play, you add her "Draw 1, discard 1" effect to the chain.

Now you start adding all of the "At the start of the turn" effects.

Flashpoint returning her to play isn't an action that waits on the chain. It is the resolution of her prior use of Flashpoint. She comes straight back into play, which will trigger her put in play effect, which you then have to chain all of your at the start of the turn effects to or else you miss their timing.


It isn't:

Hotaru is returning to play now, her returning to play goes on the chain.

It is:

Hotaru returns to play. Her triggered effect from being put in play goes on the chain.

oh i see i didnt kno she was in play B4 cards where being put on chains because flash point had a faster speed kool i always thought flash point tigger with all other first lol


and MJM dont come at me sideways out of almost all the judges in Naruto im always about 98% right

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Old 01-18-2013, 01:33 PM
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oh i see i didnt kno she was in play B4 cards where being put on chains because flash point had a faster speed kool i always thought flash point tigger with all other first lol


and MJM dont come at me sideways out of almost all the judges in Naruto im always about 98% right
Flashpoint does not have a higher speed. I now understand how Shino's Dad though I though hotarus mandatory effect had higher speed. -_-
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:37 PM
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and MJM dont come at me sideways out of almost all the judges in Naruto im always about 98% right
It seems NE also has a knack for pulling statistics out of their rear ends.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:39 PM
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Flashpoint does not have a higher speed. I now understand how Shino's Dad though I though hotarus mandatory effect had higher speed. -_-
I never once said that Flashpoint had a higher speed. That was entirely Mardo's words and not mine.

Flashpoint resolving from it's previous use causes the Ninja to be placed directly back into play at the start of the turn though, you don't add "Hotaru returning to play due to Flashpoint" to the chain, because it isn't an effect, it is the resolution of Flashpoint.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:44 PM
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Flashpoint does not have a higher speed. I now understand how Shino's Dad though I though hotarus mandatory effect had higher speed. -_-
whats with all the speed talk this isnt ygo.
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