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Old 01-16-2013, 06:20 PM
spiritomb spiritomb is offline
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It took me over 6 minutes to make the 9:12 post. I'm not a fast typer.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:32 PM
Shino'sDad Shino'sDad is offline
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Flashpoint resolves at the start of the turn, and put the Ninja directly into play. There is no waiting period where Hotaru floats like when you deploy a Ninja, so her put in play effect will trigger and you add it to the chain.

I assumed you had Hotaru on a separate chain due to her effect being mandatory and all of the other effects being optional, and once upon a time, mandatory effects Had to be placed on the chain before optional effects. Though, they never had to fully resolve before placing new triggers on the chain.

Regardless, I am glad at least one person got the intervening Eagle Trigger correct. That was the one place I figured I would get the most people.

Also Mardo we never received an entry from you. I have looked at the folder containing all the contest entries multiple times and you are not there.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:14 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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Flashpoint resolves at the start of the turn, and put the Ninja directly into play. There is no waiting period where Hotaru floats like when you deploy a Ninja, so her put in play effect will trigger and you add it to the chain.

I assumed you had Hotaru on a separate chain due to her effect being mandatory and all of the other effects being optional, and once upon a time, mandatory effects Had to be placed on the chain before optional effects. Though, they never had to fully resolve before placing new triggers on the chain.

Regardless, I am glad at least one person got the intervening Eagle Trigger correct. That was the one place I figured I would get the most people.

Also Mardo we never received an entry from you. I have looked at the folder containing all the contest entries multiple times and you are not there.
really odd i most of sent o the wrong place silly me lol i sent to this address shinomjm*gmail.com

edit here is a facebook link lol of a picture of my entry LINK

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Old 01-17-2013, 01:18 PM
Shino'sDad Shino'sDad is offline
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really odd i most of sent o the wrong place silly me lol i sent to this address shinomjm*gmail.com

edit here is a facebook link lol of a picture of my entry LINK
Found your entry. It went to the spam section for some reason. Are you a spambot Mardo?

My apologies for not finding it originally, though your answer was still incorrect due to the Hotaru thing. As I mentioned before, Hotaru returning into play is the resolution effect of Flashpoint, so she just comes back into play and that would trigger her put in play effect on the same chain as everything else that would be added.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:36 AM
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**** Asuma! I thought his effect has a cost ("You can...") but i saw the Bandai Topic about the effect too late
If there isn't the word "In that case" a card hasn't a cost.
**** Asuma! xD xD Can i ask you if i was wrong only Asuma?
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:16 AM
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I hope I copy and pasted this right. I am doing this in chunks from my email on my phone. But the following was my response for the challenge. >>>



1) one hotaru resolves and comes into play. The next hotaru resolves but can't enter play do to uniqueness rule. So it stays out of play permanently. Now I'll draw a card and then discard a card do to hotaru. This step is first cause the resolution of already active effects happens before anything else labeled in this challenge

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now I can start activating effects as there is no mandatory effects at this time. I have three choices (Ino, Asuma and Tenten).

2.) I'll activate Ino since a shikamaru is on the field fulfilling her condition. Ino pays her cost to "mill" 3.

2.b) asuma's second effect enters the chain by my choice since nothing is resolving.

2.c) giant eagle enters the chain cause of Ino's cost

3.) I'll activate Asuma's first effect. (No cost to his effect).

4.) I'll activate Tenten's effect by paying her cost by discard an earth card, seeing that's all I have.

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Now let's resolve this by applying FILO 5.) Since I discarded an earth card with Tenten, I'll draw a card. Then I discard nothing. Thus I don't trigger Asuma ( I already triggered him anyways. I can't triggered him anymore because Asuma's second effect is optional) or trigger giant eagle.

6.) Asuma's first effect resolves discarding the top two cards of my deck.

6.b) I'll have to wait for this chain to resolve to trigger giant eagle. I can't interrupt the resolution of a chain.

7.) from "2.b)" mentioned earlier, the opponent may now negate this by discard a card from their hand. If not then I will draw a card

8.) From "2.c)" giant eagle's effect resolves allowing me to reveal the cards Ino "milled" earlier on to move 1 to my hand. Now I discard a card from my hand.

9.) Now Ino's effect will resolve drawing me a card.

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10.) Starting a new chain giant eagle may now trigger off of the one time I optionally triggered Asuma's first effect.

11.) With nothing else on the chain #10 resolves with me revealing the two cards milled with Asuma. I add one of them to my hand. Now I discard one card from my hand.

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12.) I now draw my one card I always do at the end of the start of the turn phase.

-----———-----

I only after typing this realize why you gave us a specific order to have certain cards enter the chain. I hope you don't use that against me.

-Chester Bond aka Spiritomb

7.) from "2.b)" mentioned earlier, the opponent may now negate this by discard a card from their hand. If not then I will draw a card

Wouldn't this part be wrong as well since no revitalize cards in deck nothing would go to bottom of deck this you would not have the option to draw??
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:11 AM
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7.) from "2.b)" mentioned earlier, the opponent may now negate this by discard a card from their hand. If not then I will draw a card

Wouldn't this part be wrong as well since no revitalize cards in deck nothing would go to bottom of deck this you would not have the option to draw??
yes its also wrong
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:29 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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Found your entry. It went to the spam section for some reason. Are you a spambot Mardo?

My apologies for not finding it originally, though your answer was still incorrect due to the Hotaru thing. As I mentioned before, Hotaru returning into play is the resolution effect of Flashpoint, so she just comes back into play and that would trigger her put in play effect on the same chain as everything else that would be added.
that is what i said read carefully i said she is put in play upon resolveing then tiggers and starts a new chain. maybe my format is bad lol

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Old 01-18-2013, 11:21 AM
Shino'sDad Shino'sDad is offline
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that is what i said read carefully i said she is put in play upon resolveing then tiggers and starts a new chain. maybe my format is bad lol
She doesn't start a new chain though separate from the other effects. She'd be on the same chain as all the other effects.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:28 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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She doesn't start a new chain though separate from the other effects. She'd be on the same chain as all the other effects.
how can she be on the same chain if she triggered upon resolveing her effect would have to go on another new chain once all the other effect resolve also the bird will be in the same new chain with her since he also triggered of asuma

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