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Old 12-18-2012, 12:17 PM
Seiko Seiko is offline
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zbkillaz and delegna lied to me and another person then, or the fact they didn't know.

we tried to kill himself to draw 2, but they said we wouldn't get the effect to draw 2. This was at a chunins btw, so it mattered.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:19 PM
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I've heard accounts of NE judges giving bad rulings. They're not bad judges, they just need to know more about the intricate workings of the game.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:12 PM
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I talked with a guy i know, Ever since the ruling of After the battle.

How does Itachi differentiate himself from After the Battle?

Does he not check to see if the conditions were met in order to draw 2?
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:18 PM
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I talked with a guy i know, Ever since the ruling of After the battle.

How does Itachi differentiate himself from After the Battle?

Does he not check to see if the conditions were met in order to draw 2?
They both check to see if they meet the condition.

After the Battle's effect checks to see if you discarded a card, if you did, you draw 3.

Itachi's effect checks to see if you discarded a Ninja, if you did, you draw 2.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:23 PM
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Now to further discuss on this.

Did you see the ruling of After the Battle with Revitalize?

If you payed a revitalize card for AtB, AtB checks to see if you discarded the card. But since, revitalize is a replacement effect, AtB will not allow you to draw 3.

If you apply this to Itachi.

If Itachi discarded himself, he was not discarded. He was Removed from game by his own mechanic, which is inherent.

Since he checks to see if the ninja was discarded, you would draw 2.
However, since inherent removed itachi from play, which is a mandatory replacement effect.
You would not draw 2 correct?
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:45 PM
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After "logic-ing" this out, I've come to the conclusion that you are indeed correct. I was not taking into account Inherit and took it as how Shino'sDad had explained it. This is not the first time I've been lied to by the father of an insect tamer.

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Old 12-18-2012, 01:46 PM
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As we have mentioned before, we here at Mull to Four don't actually read the cards, we assumed that since most of the player base is Yugioh players, that we get to make up what our cards do.


On a serious note, you're actually correct. When I was writing the article, I thought that Itachi said ' 0: Discard a Ninja. Then, draw 2 cards.' in which case, he would be able to discard himself, as the drawing of the 2 cards didn't have a mandatory link to the discard of the Ninja.

Nice catch, I'll edit it. Prior to this, MJM was under the same assumption, because I'm a cheater and wanted to draw 9 cards in a single turn.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:56 PM
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As we have mentioned before, we here at Mull to Four don't actually read the cards, we assumed that since most of the player base is Yugioh players, that we get to make up what our cards do.


On a serious note, you're actually correct. When I was writing the article, I thought that Itachi said ' 0: Discard a Ninja. Then, draw 2 cards.' in which case, he would be able to discard himself, as the drawing of the 2 cards didn't have a mandatory link to the discard of the Ninja.

Nice catch, I'll edit it. Prior to this, MJM was under the same assumption, because I'm a cheater and wanted to draw 9 cards in a single turn.
wow lol the people at my local have been playing itachi like u originally said since set 26 came out XD we never actually read inherit lolololol
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:57 PM
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Mull to Four promotes illiteracy. We are the spokesmen of the 14% percent.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:01 PM
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Mull to Four promotes illiteracy. We are the spokesmen of the 14% percent.
why did u say 14%, than actually type percent?
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