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Old 12-14-2012, 02:04 PM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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Haku Ruling?

does this ruling make since?

I think this is a dumb rule what do you all think

Last edited by Dalegna : 12-31-2012 at 02:34 PM.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:09 PM
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That seems like it is incorrect. Unless something changed and I wasn't aware of it, it was understood that placing a copy of Ninja is the same as playing that Ninja, just with non-Unique. This action is a put in play, not a deployment. The only thing to be met is the Sacrifice Requirement.

However, it could be that Reinforcements don't work that way when you place a copy of them in play. Since Reinforcements are technically a non-deployment put in play, it can be understood that you have to meet the Entrance Cost and Hand Cost and Sacrifice Requirement just like when playing a regular Reinforcement Ninja.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:16 PM
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That seems like it is incorrect. Unless something changed and I wasn't aware of it, it was understood that placing a copy of Ninja is the same as playing that Ninja, just with non-Unique. This action is a put in play, not a deployment. The only thing to be met is the Sacrifice Requirement.

However, it could be that Reinforcements don't work that way when you place a copy of them in play. Since Reinforcements are technically a non-deployment put in play, it can be understood that you have to meet the Entrance Cost and Hand Cost and Sacrifice Requirement just like when playing a regular Reinforcement Ninja.
Now that part of it seem's to make sense.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:35 PM
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chibi sasori had to meet EC and HC as well.
makes sense to me.

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:37 PM
MJM MJM is offline
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chibi sasori had to meet EC and HC as well.
makes sense to me.
If you're referring to the first effect, that is completely different from this situation.

If you're referring to the second effect, that's because it is an effect to put in play a Reinforcement Ninja. The general rule of Reinforcements are that they must meet Entrance Cost, Hand Cost, and Sacrifice Requirements.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:16 PM
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Last I checked Placing is not the same as Put in play.

when placing something you still have to meet requirements. Put in play goes around the requirements (minus squad/reinforcement)

ruling seems ok in my eyes.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:25 PM
NextoftheLegacy NextoftheLegacy is offline
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Since Reinforcements are technically a non-deployment put in play, it can be understood that you have to meet the Entrance Cost and Hand Cost and Sacrifice Requirement just like when playing a regular Reinforcement Ninja.
This is what I'm understanding from it. Makes sense.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:54 PM
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I'm sure Reinforcements have to always meet their EC, it's been asked before and answered by Tylar, but not sure about the hand cost part.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:18 PM
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Now that part of it seem's to make sense.
But itsnot a reinforcement. Its a token. Nevertheless this is why I ask lm to explain every ruling.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:20 PM
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Last I checked Placing is not the same as Put in play.

when placing something you still have to meet requirements. Put in play goes around the requirements (minus squad/reinforcement)

ruling seems ok in my eyes.
Last time I checked if I put it in play by physically placing the card there, then I put it into play.
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