Retalize vs EWF negation debate

[Big Papa Agua]

My son and one of his buddies run retalize decks. I use a Earth/Wind/Fire negation deck with n1364, n1438, n1402, n1419 and n1471. If I negate their revitalize ninjas effect text and subsequently kill their ninja does it return to the bottom of their deck? My thought was since the ninja's text is negated once it enters discard the card is stuck in discard.

[Dalegna]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Agua

My son and one of his buddies run retalize decks. I use a Earth/Wind/Fire negation deck with n1364, n1438, n1402, n1419 and n1471. If I negate their revitalize ninjas effect text and subsequently kill their ninja does it return to the bottom of their deck? My thought was since the ninja's text is negated once it enters discard the card is stuck in discard.

No they do not

[SharinganHeir]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Agua

My son and one of his buddies run retalize decks. I use a Earth/Wind/Fire negation deck with , , , and . If I negate their revitalize ninjas effect text and subsequently kill their ninja does it return to the bottom of their deck? My thought was since the ninja's text is negated once it enters discard the card is stuck in discard.

All of those except Kurenai target Ninjas, meaning in play cards. When a card leaves play, it is no longer a Ninja but a Ninja Card. I don't see how revitalize would still be negated.

As for Kurenai, she negates activated effects and Revitalize is a triggered effect.

You really should post this and other questions in the Rules Q+A. Any answers from non-moderators are considered unofficial and won't hold up in an actual tournament (not to mention they can often be wrong).

[grasshat]

Originally Posted by SharinganHeir

All of those except Kurenai target Ninjas, meaning in play cards. When a card leaves play, it is no longer a Ninja but a Ninja Card. I don't see how revitalize would still be negated.

As for Kurenai, she negates activated effects and Revitalize is a triggered effect.

You really should post this and other questions in the Rules Q+A. Any answers from non-moderators are considered unofficial and won't hold up in an actual tournament (not to mention they can often be wrong).

to answer the original question the revitalize will still work since it triggers once it's not in play anymore.

Kurenai wouldn't stop revitalize either since revitalize isn't an activated effect, as you said it's a triggered effect.

[Dalegna]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Agua

My son and one of his buddies run retalize decks. I use a Earth/Wind/Fire negation deck with n1364, n1438, n1402, n1419 and n1471. If I negate their revitalize ninjas effect text and subsequently kill their ninja does it return to the bottom of their deck? My thought was since the ninja's text is negated once it enters discard the card is stuck in discard.

looks like i was wrong here is your answer

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im sure of this if you negated and discarded a jutsu with revitalize on it does not go to the bottom of the deck