Naruto 605

[Seventh Path]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

Where does that make sense? if sasuke remembers perfectly, everything that happened that night, why would he not know he activated sharingan? It makes no sense that his mind would repress the ONLY good thing that came from that night, and leave all the painful stuff intact. That isn't how the human brain works.

When a memory gets repressed... it tends to repress many things about it. The brain doesn't differentiate the difference between a "good" memory and a "bad" memory. It just knows trauma happened and closes off anything associated with the trauma.

The thing that got repressed was seeing Itachi cry. It didn't get repressed because it was bad. His mind could NOT comprehend it. His brother basically showed him he was a soulless murderer. Why would he cry? His young mind couldn't set the thought in his head so it got wiped. Unlocking the sharingan consequently got wiped along with that particular memory.

When the mind is cutting away at memories it's not precise. In fact, it is quite crude and tears away things you may have wanted. Therefore it is not only possible, but probable that this could happen.

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Seventh Path

When a memory gets repressed... it tends to repress many things about it. The brain doesn't differentiate the difference between a "good" memory and a "bad" memory. It just knows trauma happened and closes off anything associated with the trauma.

The thing that got repressed was seeing Itachi cry. It didn't get repressed because it was bad. His mind could NOT comprehend it. His brother basically showed him he was a soulless murderer. Why would he cry? His young mind couldn't set the thought in his head so it got wiped. Unlocking the sharingan consequently got wiped along with that particular memory.

When the mind is cutting away at memories it's not precise. In fact, it is quite crude and tears away things you may have wanted. Therefore it is not only possible, but probable that this could happen.

The thing is though, if that memory of itachi crying actually got repressed, then he wouldn't be able to remember what happened the night his family was killed either. Your brain locks away traumatic events above all else in order to protect you. Yes, he said it didn't make sense, but it is equally true that it made even less sense for itachi to kill his entire clan (in sasuke's eyes anyhow).

Also, unlocking the sharingan happened before sasuke saw itachi cried, so you can't say "he remembers his parents dying because it's a separate memory". So is awakening the sharingnan.

If his brain was locking away what it didn't understand, then he wouldn't be able to recall the details of that night as far as going into the room and seeing his parents dead, etc.

That is obviously not the case, therefore, his brain did not lock away memories that he didn't understand based simply on the idea that he didn't understand them.

[TheLastHokage]

Originally Posted by allanime01

SHOT THROUGH THE HEART
AND YOOOU'RE TO BLAAAAME
DARLING YOU GIVE LOOOOVE
A BAAAAD NAAAAAME

Nice .

[Nickuchiha]

So, I decided to go back and watch the Minato vs Madara fight, and I noticed that Madara/Obito's left arm was a Zetsu arm, but the Obito we've seen has his left side intact still. What if Madara's consciousness is in the Zetsu's. We've seen it isn't too difficult for Madara/Obito to transfer eyes, and use their abilities. What if Madara used Obito's eye during that attack on the village?

Just posing different possibilities, even if Madara wasn't in this chapter really, it is all connected.

[Seventh Path]

Originally Posted by Nejifan

The thing is though, if that memory of itachi crying actually got repressed, then he wouldn't be able to remember what happened the night his family was killed either. Your brain locks away traumatic events above all else in order to protect you. Yes, he said it didn't make sense, but it is equally true that it made even less sense for itachi to kill his entire clan (in sasuke's eyes anyhow).

Also, unlocking the sharingan happened before sasuke saw itachi cried, so you can't say "he remembers his parents dying because it's a separate memory". So is awakening the sharingnan.

If his brain was locking away what it didn't understand, then he wouldn't be able to recall the details of that night as far as going into the room and seeing his parents dead, etc.

That is obviously not the case, therefore, his brain did not lock away memories that he didn't understand based simply on the idea that he didn't understand them.

Think of memories like a long piece of meat. The way you're thinking repressed memories work is a expert surgeon using a scalpel to cut away exactly what needs to be taken away.It's more like a novice butcher with a meat cleaver randomly cutting away the meat. Something more always gets cut away.

And you know something Sasuke can understand Itachi killing the clan. Itachi told him : "I wanted to test my power". It may be a terrible reason but It still gives his mind something to grasp. His mind literally could not grasp why his brother was crying.

[MJM]

All of this is just plot movement, Orochimaru is the main antagonist.

[SharinganHeir]

Originally Posted by MJM

All of this is just plot movement, Orochimaru is the main antagonist.

Nope. Madara FTW

[Nejifan]

Originally Posted by Seventh Path

Think of memories like a long piece of meat. The way you're thinking repressed memories work is a expert surgeon using a scalpel to cut away exactly what needs to be taken away.It's more like a novice butcher with a meat cleaver randomly cutting away the meat. Something more always gets cut away.

And you know something Sasuke can understand Itachi killing the clan. Itachi told him : "I wanted to test my power". It may be a terrible reason but It still gives his mind something to grasp. His mind literally could not grasp why his brother was crying.

that's a really shallow argument. Using that as a reason still doesn't mean he can understand that reason. His brother was never mean to him in his life, heck, he even smiled at him quite often. So it still wouldn't make sense to sasuke that itachi simply 'wanted to test his power'.

My point is not that sasuke didn't repress the memory, because obviously it DID happen. My point is simply that it isn't consistent with the way memory suppression works.

[Chidori]

i would like the memory of this argument to be suppressed...

[SharinganHeir]

Originally Posted by Chidori

i would like the memory of this argument to be suppressed...

I would like many memories of arguments with Nejifan to be suppressed.