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Old 09-29-2012, 03:26 PM
UshioxChanx711 UshioxChanx711 is offline
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Welcome to the Internet. Its not a pleasant place.

Anywho, Long effects normally are troublesome because they become complicated and easily misinterpreted. Look what happened with the Tshucikage. Tylar made a joke saying that they were considering extending his text box just because he's so short.

As for the effect, the only part I really liked was the play from chakra at a +2 Entrance Cost. You may have something there. It'd be cool to have missions do that. Not the draw missions but the utility missions. Its also been done before in MtG. Flashback was a pretty big deal I hear

Also for the future We have a card creation section
thank you this is exactly what im talking about. you had something nice, and constructive to say, and it gave me a little insight about what i think the card should be. and trust me i know all about the internet lol, im just making sure i address all the people with non-productive things to say and make sure they know i dont care for what they had to say about something. sure they can just continue to say it, but as long as they know i dont care for their opinion, its all good for me. and yea i know the effect is long and easy to misinterpret, but i figured this could be a nice card effect, so if it actually came down to this card or a similar card being made, they could take the effect and boil it down to what they wanted kind of thing. also, i kinda felt that there was a section for that, but i couldnt find it after a few minutes, and thought it would get more attention here anyway even if i did manage to find it. thanks though ill remember that next time.

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Old 09-29-2012, 03:37 PM
Seventh Path Seventh Path is offline
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thank you this is exactly what im talking about. you had something nice, and constructive to say, and it gave me a little insight about what i think the card should be. and trust me i know all about the internet lol, im just making sure i address all the people with non-productive things to say and make sure they know i dont care for what they had to say about something. sure they can just continue to say it, but as long as they know i dont care for their opinion, its all good for me. and yea i know the effect is long and easy to misinterpret, but i figured this could be a nice card effect, so if it actually came down to this card or a similar card being made, they could take the effect and boil it down to what they wanted kind of thing. also, i kinda felt that there was a section for that, but i couldnt find it after a few minutes, and thought it would get more attention here anyway even if i did manage to find it. thanks though ill remember that next time.
I'm one of the few that'll just give it to you straight. Half the people on this site are trolls and the other half are people who will genuinely help. Actually the ratio is more 4:1... The fun part is figuring out which is which.

I find the best way to combat "those" type of people is to ignore them, not confront them. Saying anything to them will just provoke them more. Attention is attention whether you say something good, or something bad.

It'll definitely get more attention here but then mods lock it/move it to the proper place anyway. Do it too many times and it goes a little more extreme than simply doing that. There's a place for everything here and it keeps our boards tidy.

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Old 09-29-2012, 03:41 PM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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Or bleeding eyes. Though you might wanna see Itachi also to seek advice over this condition.
I did and the only cure is death and being reanimated


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well then clearly you are illiterate, or have eye problems sir. i take pride in my spelling, and we all make spelling errors when we are typing fast and arent really concerned because people know what you mean most of the time.

Everyone knows im illiterate where have you been oh wait at the Ninja Academy why do you think i said i kno a thing or two about bad english Note his post rank

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Old 09-29-2012, 03:49 PM
UshioxChanx711 UshioxChanx711 is offline
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I'm one of the few that'll just give it to you straight. Half the people on this site are trolls and the other half are people who will genuinely help. Actually the ratio is more 4:1... The fun part is figuring out which is which.

I find the best way to combat "those" type of people is to ignore them, not confront them. Saying anything to them will just provoke them more. Attention is attention whether you say something good, or something bad.

It'll definitely get more attention here but then mods lock it/move it to the proper place anyway. Do it too many times and it goes a little more extreme than simply doing that. There's a place for everything here and it keeps our boards tidy.

/PSA
ok well thanks for your input, i appreciate the positive things you said. and im glad your one of the people who isnt just a waste of an account trollmastergeneralsupreme
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:54 PM
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it wasnt a matter of the card being too long to print, cuz obviously bandai just doesnt jump in on peoples card ideas and use them for them self. this card was a matter of just a neat effect that would be kool to see on a card. and about it being too long, if they did make this card im sure they would find ways to shorten the effect. not to mention there have been some long card effects in naruto history.
The longest card effect in the game is STILL only 1/4th the size of this monstrosity
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well then clearly you are illiterate, or have eye problems sir. i take pride in my spelling, and we all make spelling errors when we are typing fast and arent really concerned because people know what you mean most of the time.
It's called proofreading. If you took as much pride in your spelling as you claim, you'd do it. I am
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i dont know exactly what you mean by that. there are plenty of drawback opportunitys on this card, and it could be edited a little to make it more balanced if people would give me some feedback. dont give criticism if its not going to be constructive.
I don't see a single drawback to this card. Not to mention it has like 4 or 5 effects, the best keyword of the game, and literally can not be gotten rid of.
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it was hard for me to tell, but was that remark saying you like my card? if you do, anything you could tell me that you like or dont like about it would be appreciated as i have seen some of your posts, and you seem like a decent person who isnt going to be idiotic about this like others have already.
Talk anymore like this, and you'll find yourself ostracized similar to the likes of avatar7 and the legendary Topside.
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ok if its too long and you didnt read it, then why are you wasting my time by posting something like this when i am expecting some constructive criticism? im sure you have better things you couldve done with that wasted time. or maybe you didnt? hard to say with some of these people...
Because nothing "constructive" can be said on this card. It's too long, it does way to much, with no cost or draw back, it's poorly worded yes (but that's more your fault not the card's) and frankly would only see play because it's inability to be removed from play makes it a stall factor.
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i agree the card may be kinda longish, but the usefulness of the effect suits the length. who knows maybe bandai will like this card and post the effect online, effectively making it there first textless promo
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh wait.....you're serious? LET ME LAUGH HARDER!
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This card not only will never be an actual card, but you have a looooong ways to go my friend. I'm automatically assuming you aren't US, otherwise you wouldn't think so innocently of both these forms and this company.
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anyone who has something IMPORTANT or USEFUL(key words here) to say, that isnt just wasting my time and their own, please feel free to chime in here and give your 2 cents about the card.
1) See how I have all your posts in quotes? It's called multi-quoting. Learn it, because multiple posts are considered spam.
2) dude, your card sucks. Plain and simple. I'm not being "mean" i'm not being "a troll" it's just bad, not just because it's long either. Also, as someone said, there's a whole section called "Create-a-Card" to post this thing
3) You're clearly new here, since you posted this and expected meaningful or insightful responses. Honestly, you might have gotten them had you taken a moment to view other cards, stopped and thought about it, or maybe read the new user starter guide at the top of the page. The entire first post screamed derail, troll, and flame.
4) there, all useful, all with a basic tone you'll see all over these boards, and all relevant and on topic, in one simple post.
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:56 PM
UshioxChanx711 UshioxChanx711 is offline
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I did and the only cure is death and being reanimated





Everyone knows im illiterate where have you been oh wait at the Ninja Academy why do you think i said i kno a thing or two about bad english Note his post rank
meh i considered making a remark about how illiterate you are, revolving around the fact that YOU are the one your getting this fact from, but i decided that it wasnt needed as you probably already knew it yourself. and i was right apparently. and your joke about me being a ninja academy student has no power over me kid(before you even go there im calling you a kid because kids generally act childish), because i have been on this site since path to hokage, ive just lost one or two jonin level accounts over the years due to forgetting information over the long period of time.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:15 PM
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meh i considered making a remark about how illiterate you are, revolving around the fact that YOU are the one your getting this fact from, but i decided that it wasnt needed as you probably already knew it yourself. and i was right apparently. and your joke about me being a ninja academy student has no power over me kid(before you even go there im calling you a kid because kids generally act childish), because i have been on this site since path to hokage, ive just lost one or two jonin level accounts over the years due to forgetting information over the long period of time.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:16 PM
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It's a convoluted mess the likes of which would never see the light of day, ever, in any game. #TheBottomLine
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:18 PM
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Cards should have short and useful effects, not half a book written on them. I can't stand overly complicated cards that take a minute to read. Why not split it in multiple cards? Or condense it into a shorter effect that achieves the same things. Usually long text on cards mean the designer was too lazy to think of a better way to achieve something.

I see you only want to hear positive comments though, so good luck with that. My specialty is criticism, usually constructive, but not always. In this case it's all subjective, so this discussion is pointless.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:46 PM
UshioxChanx711 UshioxChanx711 is offline
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The longest card effect in the game is STILL only 1/4th the size of this monstrosity

It's called proofreading. If you took as much pride in your spelling as you claim, you'd do it. I am

I don't see a single drawback to this card. Not to mention it has like 4 or 5 effects, the best keyword of the game, and literally can not be gotten rid of.

Talk anymore like this, and you'll find yourself ostracized similar to the likes of avatar7 and the legendary Topside.

Because nothing "constructive" can be said on this card. It's too long, it does way to much, with no cost or draw back, it's poorly worded yes (but that's more your fault not the card's) and frankly would only see play because it's inability to be removed from play makes it a stall factor.

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh wait.....you're serious? LET ME LAUGH HARDER!
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
This card not only will never be an actual card, but you have a looooong ways to go my friend. I'm automatically assuming you aren't US, otherwise you wouldn't think so innocently of both these forms and this company.


1) See how I have all your posts in quotes? It's called multi-quoting. Learn it, because multiple posts are considered spam.
2) dude, your card sucks. Plain and simple. I'm not being "mean" i'm not being "a troll" it's just bad, not just because it's long either. Also, as someone said, there's a whole section called "Create-a-Card" to post this thing
3) You're clearly new here, since you posted this and expected meaningful or insightful responses. Honestly, you might have gotten them had you taken a moment to view other cards, stopped and thought about it, or maybe read the new user starter guide at the top of the page. The entire first post screamed derail, troll, and flame.
4) there, all useful, all with a basic tone you'll see all over these boards, and all relevant and on topic, in one simple post.
ok like you im going to break this down.

first quote: i dont see how this is a "monstrosity", as it is hard to say how long the effect would appear on an actual card, especially after being shortened in many ways.

second quote: saying "as much pride as you claim" is acting like you know me, because i didnt explain any real level of pride i have in my spelling, i simply correct any mistakes i notice as im going along, and there are plenty of people who dont spell correctly at all soooo yea. as everyone has pointed out already, this entire first post is very long when combining the card with everything else i said, so i wasnt too concerned with spelling, thinking people wouldnt be silly and make a big deal out of it.

third quote: it has 3 effects, and 3 drawback effects. i had even obviously mentioned that the positive effects may be too powerful when compared to the drawback effects, and i would change the card when i got enough feedback to know what was liked an what wasnt liked. by "the best keyword" do you mean Revitalize? because that is a matter of opinion, and i gave it revitalize so you wouldnt be able to abuse it from the chakra every 2 turns granted i am correct about how revitalize works. and i may have to change the wording to "YOUR effects gained from inherit are negated after activation this turn" because thats what i intended for it to do. this qoute tells me that you didnt read the card right, or misinterpreted its effect/effects for the most part.

fourth quote: i dont see what you mean, i didnt say anything offensive really. its a fact that some of the things that have been said in this thread were of the idiotic sort, because people didnt really need to say some of the things they said. granted i mightve been able to find a better word to use, but that one seemed like the most accurate to me.

fifth quote: its foolish that you would say nothing constructive can be said, as any idea can use some constructive criticism. yes its long we've all addressed that at this point, there is a cost, there are restrictions for you, and there are drawbacks. im sorry but thats a fact. clearly it needs more work, but any idea usually has to work out the kinks before it is the way it should be. i really dont see how you can say its poorly worded, for stuff like that you should really be specific, that much is obvious. wth are you talking about with that last part? it clearly can be removed from play, and it does absolutely nothing really while its sitting face up on the field. i had considered taking away the permanent part, but then i didnt know how else to make sure it always got discarded when leaving the field, and i didnt know how i would incorporate revitalize to make it so that it cant be abused from the chakra every single turn.

sixth quote: you kinda made a fool out of yourself with this one, because i WAS joking. i dont really think bandai would turn this into a card, i just made it because i though it was a really kool card idea. but let me ask this, can you see the future? because you sure are full of yourself like you can. and on a side note, i AM from the US friend. i have been on the bandai site for quite a long time, and i most certainly do not perceive this site as "innocent".

final part: 1) im soooo sorry please excuse me. as i scrolled through the posts, i saw what people said, and if i felt compelled to tell that person what i think about what they said, i took care of it right then and there. then i moved along

2) you are entitled to your opinion, but if your gonna say something about the card that doesnt help, at least be accurate and say this card is too strong because then at least you would make sense. and yes i posted this in the wrong place, that has already been established, you yourself just pointed out that someone already said it. so why would you say it again?

3)well once again your wrong. i am not new here, i know what has been played over the last while, and i know what effects are desired on cards. that is why i made the card the way i did. and i expected meaningful and insightful responses because there are a few decent people on this website that like to put there positive 2 cents in to help the development of my card. and it can "scream" whatever it wants, but i have proven this useful by getting a few positive remarks so far.

4) yes you are correct, it was all on topic. and i thank you for your input. but you need to think carefully, and collect more info before you just start rambling. if you had asked me a few questions, and actually cared at all about the card(not just pointing out the negative parts, without giving ANYTHING towards the point of this thread), im sure you could have saved yourself some time, and made yourself seem a little less foolish on my part.

thanks again man.

Note: i dont expect everyone or anyone to read this response to his quotes, as it is quite long, i just had to get my point across to him.

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