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Old 09-06-2012, 07:35 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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Good Looking Out - Builing an MA Unlimited Rogue List

What the tittle reads

there is going to be lots of tweaking and time into trying to make somewhat of a Great list.

Note: Testing this format is not our Priority so the list might take a long time to change, All Changes will be in red




I. Max ZERO Cards (30)

You cannot play ANY copies of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Series #4: Revenge and Rebirth – Sasuke Uchiha
Series #10: Lineage of Legends – Cooking Match!
Series #12: A New Chronicle – Reaper Death Seal
Series #14 Emerging Alliance – Shikamaru Nara
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Shizune & Tonton
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Secret Meeting
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Pledge under a Starry Sky
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Ten Thousand Snake Waves
Series #15: Foretold Prophecy – Yamato
Series #15: Foretold Prophecy – Baki
Series #16: Broken Promises – Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu
Series #16: Broken Promises – Rasengan
Series #16: Broken Promises – Exposing the Hideout
Series #13: Fateful Reunion – Corps in Black
Tin Promo: Naruto Uzumaki
Series #18: Fangs of the Snake – Sasuke Uchiha (State 2)
Series #21.5: Tournament Pack 3 – Fond Memories
Series #3: Curse of the Sand – Secret Conspiracy
Series #10: Lineage of the Legends – Sasuke Uchiha
Series #10: Lineage of the Legends – Kimimaro
Series #18: Fangs of the Snake – Tayuya
Series #20: Tales of the Gallant Sage – Distal Phalanx Shrapnel
Series #10: Lineage of the Legends – Kankuro
Series #18: Fangs of the Snake – Summoning Jutsu
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Haku (Childhood)
Series #2: Coils of the Snake – Summoning Jutsu
Series #12: A New Chronicle – Ebizo
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Naruto Uzumaki (Tailed Beast Mode)
Series #13: Fateful Reunion – Naruto Uzumaki (Tailed Beast Mode)
Series #21: Shattered Truth – Anbu
Series #21: Shattered Truth – Anbu

Series #16: Broken Promises – Chidori Stream
Promo - Successors
Promo - Sasuke Uchiha


II. Max ONE Card (20)

You can ONLY use ONE of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Series #10: Lineage of Legends – Ghost Panic
Series #10: Lineage of Legends – Water Style: Furious Current Jutsu
Series #12: A New Chronicle – Kankuro
Series #13: Fateful Reunion – Threat of the Tailed Beast
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Yoroi Akado
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – A New Squad
Series #17 Will of Fire – Naruto Uzumaki
Series #14 – Emerging Alliance – Kabuto Yakushi
Series #20: Tales of the Gallant Sage – Hydro-pump
Series #19: Path of Pain – Suigetsu’s Joy
Series #20: Tales of the Gallant Sage – Training in the Moonlight
Series #4: Revenge and Rebirth – Release of Chakra
Series #12: A New Chronicle – Dispatch of Anbu
Series #4: Revenge and Rebirth – Changes in Pairings
Series #15: Foretold Prophecy – Shion (Awakened)
Series #19: Path of Pain – Sasuke Uchiha
Series #16: Broken Promises – Flower Shuriken: Burning Petals and Fallen Leaves
Series #20: Tales of the Gallant Sage – Anko’s Memory
Series #10: Lineage of Legends – Emina
Series #4: Revenge and Rebirth – Naruto 2K Uzumaki Barrage
Series #14 – Emerging Alliance – Sonic Attack
Promo - Kakashi Hatake
Series #13: Fateful Reunion – 4 Times Faster
Series #11: Approaching Wind - Hikaru Tsuki


III. Max TWO Cards (6)

You can ONLY use TWO of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Series #1: The Path to Hokage – Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu
Series #1: The Path to Hokage – 8 Trigram Divination Seal Spell Formula
Series #6: Eternal Rivalry – Shadow Clone Jutsu
Series #13: Fateful Reunion – Substitute
Series #18: Fangs of the Snake – Biscuit



No Longer On The List

Series #15 Foretold Prophecy – Sealing the Evil
Series #4: Revenge and Rebirth – Naruto Uzumaki
Series #21.5: Tournament Pack 3 – Nagato
Series #14: Emerging Alliance – Itachi Uchiha

Last edited by Dalegna : 10-06-2012 at 08:25 AM. Reason: Removed Naruto from the list
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:42 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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IP deck has been tested i like the deck
NVM deck has been tested i hate the deck
JI deck have been tested really hard to pull off

Last edited by Dalegna : 10-13-2012 at 02:57 PM.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:05 AM
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What about cards that should be taken off the list?

I think Itachi [GIG] could go back to three especially if sharingan of tears is banned. I also don't think there is a need for Sealing the Evil to be limited. And unless I'm overlooking some incredibly easy way to do the Nagato loop very early, I don't see a problem with him coming off the list.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:17 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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What about cards that should be taken off the list?

I think Itachi [GIG] could go back to three especially if sharingan of tears is banned. I also don't think there is a need for Sealing the Evil to be limited. And unless I'm overlooking some incredibly easy way to do the Nagato loop very early, I don't see a problem with him coming off the list.
thats what i was wondering to why was he there, and as for evil its a great easy turn 3 snipe jutsu now not sure how much it has but it can be tested

also i got lazy so i will be add more things i think should change but thanks for the input

Last edited by Dalegna : 09-06-2012 at 11:19 AM.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:37 PM
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thats what i was wondering to why was he there, and as for evil its a great easy turn 3 snipe jutsu now not sure how much it has but it can be tested

also i got lazy so i will be add more things i think should change but thanks for the input
Also, Putting WoF to 0 doesn't keep mill in check, it kills it. Hikaru getting put to 0 would hurt the deck as well as anbus going to 0.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:57 PM
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i miss baki, just saying
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:44 PM
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i miss baki, just saying
Will never come back under any cir****tance. It's way too broken.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:32 AM
kirax7 kirax7 is offline
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i rewrite here what i think the Unlimited format should be:
- No PiP ninjas before turn 3 - after turn 3 anything goes -> Ban Anbus, Biscuit, 4th Hokage, Hikaru, etc..
- Free PiP before turn 3 must have some sort of disadvantage like Ink Fish or Mist Anbu..
- No "easy" requirement-less removal before turn 1 -> Ban Current..
- No "easy" one-sided board wipes -> Ban Snake Waves, Water Dragon, Hydro Pump, Tetragram now..
- No untouchable ninjas -> Ban OC, since Naruto&Gamabunta is semi-OC and i can put it in play at t3 easy..
- No OTKs before turn 3 -> Ban Sharingan of Tears, 4 Time Faster, or OTKs that involve massaging your deck for 40 minutes before winning..

just check every cards with this rules, limit or ban them, and you make a better unlimited format!

what the hell, why a lot of people don't want to ban Anbus, Biscuit or something like that? Rush deck die? No..
there are a lot of possibly rush deck, just use other cards in the game..

i don't think WoF needs to ban because of Hina, new Revitalize Ninjas, and without Anbus/Biscuit/Hikaru, mill deck isn't the best..
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:21 AM
Dalegna Dalegna is offline
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plz understand there will be testing involve i never once said WoF is Ban but its in my watch list of a card that should be ban but who knows it might just be an ok card at 3.


i was not at gencon and didnt see all the crazy things that happen so now im just gonna have to do all the hard work of testing cards very carefully
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:09 AM
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plz understand there will be testing involve i never once said WoF is Ban but its in my watch list of a card that should be ban but who knows it might just be an ok card at 3.


i was not at gencon and didnt see all the crazy things that happen so now im just gonna have to do all the hard work of testing cards very carefully
WoF shouldn't be a problem if the free put in plays go away.

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thats what i was wondering to why was he there, and as for evil its a great easy turn 3 snipe jutsu now not sure how much it has but it can be tested

also i got lazy so i will be add more things i think should change but thanks for the input
Do you honestly think Sealing the Evil is a better snipe than Naruto 2k Barrage? 2k Barrage can be played earlier and has better early users (Naruto > Tenzo). 2k Barrage isn't on the list and as a result neither should Sealing the Evil.

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