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Old 09-04-2012, 06:18 AM
Eye-of-God Eye-of-God is offline
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The whole reason it should just be Obito is a reason that a lot of people are using as a point against it Just being Obito; the fact that young Obito and Naruto are both so similar in everything they do, say, and feel.

This manga, at it's barest and most base, is about a kid who has gone through hell his entire life, but refuses to give up, and has a dream that he won't let anyone get in the way of. It isn't about wars, or Ninjas, or Jutsu, or anything like that. It's about the growth of Naruto Uzumaki.

What does this have to do with Obito then? He is the perfect person to place opposite of Naruto. Throughout the manga, Naruto has encountered people who share similar qualities in him one way or another, though who usually have gone bad for one reason or another. Gaara shared a similar past to Naruto, though much worse, and became a villain because of it. Of course, Naruto was able to redeem him. The same can be said for Nagato, who's intentions were peace, but at a terrible cost.

Unfortunately, this simply means that Obito is another character who's intent is something they seem to think is Good, but ultimately seems bad because of the venue they choose to take in order to reach that point. Obito's sacrifice was ultimately in vain, Rin still died in the end, and that made him bitter. Was that the sole reason? No, more things had to happened, and I think we'll learn more this upcoming chapter. Obito is Naruto gone wrong, grown bitter, and willing to do whatever, no matter the consequences, in order to achieve his own personal peace. No more wars, no more fighting, no friends dying. Moon's Eye Plan is Human Instrumentality, the joining of all people into a single peaceful dream where pain no longer exists, and everyone is happy. Naruto has learned though through Nagato and others that pain is a necessary part of living. You can't have just the good and not any bad.
I mean alot of what you posted is right on with the essence of the series, cept for when he dies or presumably dies Rin and Kakashi makes it out alright so at that time he didnt know otherwise so how can he rage because of that.

The only reason why I don't want Tobi to be Obito is because of the time frame Kakashi was 13 at the time of Gaiden he's about 30 now Based on the Naruto wikia subtract 16 the age of Naruto and marking the beginning of the series Kakashi is 14 leaving roughly a 1 year difference so in that short time he has a growthspurt making him the height he is now, he had an incredible power boost to where he's on equal footing with Minato.

As it is shown Obito has no real merit to have change that much personality wise so we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see what explaination Masashi has to Obito change so much, again we haven't seen what happened in that incredibly short time frame.
Also won't mind it being Obito if there is a reasonable explaination and real timeframe for all these events pre-Naruto
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:24 AM
Akatsukidude101 Akatsukidude101 is offline
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What if obito has multiple personalities because he possibly merged with zetsu when dieing. Every time a body part gets hacked off, it looks like a squishy zetsu-like substance. I know that the playful tobi was supposed to be a disguise, but maybe it was a different "person" and now this demented evil tobi is having his turn.

Lol this is just a joke, but thatd be hilarious if it were true


Unfortunately i do understand how it could be obito, it just doesnt really seem to be good enough of a reason. Of course tomorrow will begin our understanding as to who or why this is.

I do still believe oros hand is in this somehow, be it on purpose or his research aiding in this thing that we call tobi.

LOL what if this series is a mega troll story and its just the sage looking into the future to see how things would play out if he separated the 10 tails.

or

Its a story written by a jiraiya esque loljk
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:35 PM
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What if obito has multiple personalities because he possibly merged with zetsu when dieing. Every time a body part gets hacked off, it looks like a squishy zetsu-like substance. I know that the playful tobi was supposed to be a disguise, but maybe it was a different "person" and now this demented evil tobi is having his turn.

Lol this is just a joke, but thatd be hilarious if it were true


Unfortunately i do understand how it could be obito, it just doesnt really seem to be good enough of a reason. Of course tomorrow will begin our understanding as to who or why this is.

I do still believe oros hand is in this somehow, be it on purpose or his research aiding in this thing that we call tobi.

LOL what if this series is a mega troll story and its just the sage looking into the future to see how things would play out if he separated the 10 tails.

or

Its a story written by a jiraiya esque loljk
That would be the funniest thing ever IMO...that and the people raging for weeks about it.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:51 PM
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What if obito has multiple personalities because he possibly merged with zetsu when dieing. Every time a body part gets hacked off, it looks like a squishy zetsu-like substance. I know that the playful tobi was supposed to be a disguise, but maybe it was a different "person" and now this demented evil tobi is having his turn.


Unfortunately i do understand how it could be obito, it just doesnt really seem to be good enough of a reason. Of course tomorrow will begin our understanding as to who or why this is.

I do still believe oros hand is in this somehow, be it on purpose or his research aiding in this thing that we call tobi.

LOL what if this series is a mega troll story and its just the sage looking into the future to see how things would play out if he separated the 10 tails.

or

Its a story written by a jiraiya esque loljk
If either of those were to be true, I am not sure if I would laugh or cry. *Frowny|Big Grin|Confused smiley*
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:05 PM
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If either of those were to be true, I am not sure if I would laugh or cry. *Frowny|Big Grin|Confused smiley*
It would be the largest act of trolling in human history. 4chan would be proud.
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