Tylar, for the sake of water players, please stop this nonsense

[Volja]

Originally Posted by allanime01

the 4th hokage does not have water on him

I was thinking of the new 3rd, my bad

[allanime01]

Originally Posted by sortofjosh

This theme is an interesting idea, but the problem that is evident at this point is the "payoff cards" like suigetsu or orochimaru.
They're terribly underpowered considering your opponent can cut off their effects simply by playing a jutsu.

What we need are missions that can draw/boost/win BR's based on opponents chakras, and jutsus that gain nice effects like say being untouchable if they have 7+ or auto OV if they have 10+ (Obviously balance it somehow, but you get my point) I mean the deck currently has a healer (Karin) Muscle (Suiu, Suigetsu, and Jugo) Board presence (Mist Anbu) and a tech guys(Orochimaru and Sakon) so ninjas just need a little more curve and work and this theme might be really fun.

[princeneo]

Try using a Water/Fire deck, Throne of the Uchiha.

[TheLastHokage]

Originally Posted by princeneo

Try using a Water/Fire deck, Throne of the Uchiha.

It works great.

[killerkimimaro]

Originally Posted by Xyliex

im so over the 4th Brokage. i honestly think his time is up and its time to go.

if the 4th goes gencon is going to be rofl stomped by rush decks and MILL, wat im getting at is that the 4th is an important card for this format.

[soundwave187]

Originally Posted by princeneo

Try using a Water/Fire deck, Throne of the Uchiha.

Originally Posted by TheLastHokage

It works great.

look who's good at the game. now listen to them.
these are some awesome players who know how to make a weakness a strength. *applause*

[sortofjosh]

Originally Posted by princeneo

Try using a Water/Fire deck, Throne of the Uchiha.

Sure, it's a great combo, but I don't think it's unreasonable to be concerned with the way water was designed for this set. If it continues the same way, water runs the risk of being pigeonholed as a nonserious or noncompetitive element. Certainly premature to make that conclusion at this point, but players still have a right to voice their concern.

[koisthefish]

Originally Posted by Naruto VS Sasuke 1

I have to agree with the thread maker that the chakra giving theme was a terrible idea and that the water support this set is very lackl uster (spaced to avoid random *s) except Mizukage (even though I still don't think she's that great since other ninjas have almost the same level of effect negation on earlier turns) and the jutsu preview on TPC , but it could end up being good later. The problem with the current cards for the theme is that they are too weak to warrant giving your opponent the chakra to use hydro pump, dragon flame, etc. I do realize you're supposed to combo them with cards that get rid of your opponent's chakra, but even water doesn't have enough chakra stealing stuff to get rid of all that chakra you're giving your opponent until considerably late in the game.

Actually that last part isn't true, especially for us unlimited players. Kisame ab makes the deck better. Only give yyour opponent 1 chakra and still get off all my effects seems pretty good. Except for maybe the orochimaru but I'm sure there's other that can be played. Id play somethiny like water lightning and add anko test proctor for some turn accel.

[Naruto VS Sasuke 1]

Originally Posted by koisthefish

Actually that last part isn't true, especially for us unlimited players. Kisame ab makes the deck better. Only give yyour opponent 1 chakra and still get off all my effects seems pretty good. Except for maybe the orochimaru but I'm sure there's other that can be played. Id play somethiny like water lightning and add anko test proctor for some turn accel.

I always gear my posts towards block format since that is the dominant format (no offense to you or others that play unlimited, it just isn't currently a competitive format). Of course in unlimited my statement would be incorrect since you guys have stolen bodies, threat of the tailed beasts, and my favorite 2 drop ever: set 14 Yoroi Akado.

[koisthefish]

Originally Posted by Naruto VS Sasuke 1

I always gear my posts towards block format since that is the dominant format (no offense to you or others that play unlimited, it just isn't currently a competitive format). Of course in unlimited my statement would be incorrect since you guys have stolen bodies, threat of the tailed beasts, and my favorite 2 drop ever: set 14 Yoroi Akado.

Oh yea that does make sense. I forget all the bigger tournys are block. Here in nebraskka we only have small unlim tourneys. Even in omaha which is the biggest city here, is unlim, I belive. :/