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Old 02-11-2010, 10:28 AM
Tsu Kiyo Me Tsu Kiyo Me is offline
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Should have said that "you choose" what slots to put them in... since I thought they go in at random. I wouldn't know that you get to choose where they go in a gun. I figured that you dropped the bullets in, and then they found their place in the gun at complete random.

This narrows it down to either placing the bullets next to each other, opposite each other, or skipping a slot.

Next to each other or opposite each other means that both players have danger of getting hit by one of the two. Skipping a slot means either both can hit you or neither can.

You'd have to calculate both scenarios and see which one works out best. I'll consider doing this later.
It would be exactly as Andrew stated. He is essentially going off the problems found in a Manga. When I originally started to solve the problem, I assumed random distribution because it is a given for this type of problem unless explicitly stated.

Andrew said that the answer the main character arrived at in the comic does not use simple mathematics and he figures it out by the weight of the chamber of the gun when it is spun and there was a good chance the explanation would not match up with the math...

At that point I stopped caring about the second calculation.

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Old 02-11-2010, 11:27 AM
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Stop posting stuff from Liar Game :\
i didn't know other people read that manga
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:58 AM
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:28 PM
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Gosh if you wanna play liar game so badly why don't you ask some hollywood producers to take up the manga and make a reality TV show about it.

*Hint*
*hint*
already happening.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:08 PM
Nejifan Nejifan is offline
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You missed something key in my problem statement. And that is that YOU load the two bullets in yourself. I also said you should assume that you want to win. Given these conditions, you want to load the bullet to your advantage.

Edit: Just so you know, you're understanding of how the gun works is correct.
what is your point? because the chamber spins randomly, and your opponent is the one who spins it, it doesn't matter in the least how they were loaded. it's 100% dependent on where they stop the revolution of the chambers.

heck, after the chambers are spun you can't even know where the bullets are even if you loaded them yourself because the eye can't follow it at that speed.

every method of loading the bullets has equal chance. I don't think you understand statistics/probabilities well.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:16 PM
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actually gravity has an effect on the spin and the positions of the bullets will effect the centrifugal force since its spinning in a circle.

Also the Position the gun is held will effect the rotation and where the bullets will land.

its actually quite impossible to know where the bullets will be unless you load the gun and spin it yourself.
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