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Old 10-12-2010, 10:37 AM
Gotta catch 'em all Gotta catch 'em all is offline
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I would like to nominate Shikamaru_of_Hebi and Hikari link both cuz i just love to watch them argue and dispute irrelevant things its amusing to me and gives me something to read during work.. So guys keep up the good work..


P.S
Amir threaten to blow up my house if i didn't nominate him
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:40 AM
Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 is offline
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Nope, he was dead by the time I sent that PM. He wasn't in on the plan because he didn't need to be.

I wouldn't blame them. Revealing me wouldn't erase the information from their minds and since you had to go in and interfere, think most people would be fine with stopping you.

You admitted a plan. Whether or not that was your true motive is up for debate.

You aren't telling the truth or you perceived the situation wrong, because there was nothing of the sort going on until you butted in. Minato stumbled in the beginning because he didn't know about the rule barring pre-established alliances, but as soon as I set him straight, he tried his best to make his side win up until you started cheating.

I have a secret outside man? This is news to me.

Shino'sDad knew nothing and there is no evidence that you wanted any particular side to win, but you certainly were manipulating events.

Considering I hadn't even mentioned the roles of any of the rogues until far after Shino'Dad was pardoned, that's quite a feat. It was during the night phase after he was pardoned that I announced hokage333 would be our target, after Canti confirmed it. Then Canti died during the night phase and I decided I might as well come out with all of my suspects, all of which I caught by stalking, regardless of whether or not I actually knew Minato was a rogue.

I still don't know why you did it. I have to assume a compulsion of some sort that makes you feel the need to manipulate the events, even when you aren't playing.

This is untrue. First of all, I was with you when we won the Stone game. Also, I was working with Sasuke when we won the Sound game.

1. I wasn't even there, so I wouldn't know anything about that.
2. I highly doubt people care enough about Mafia to be mocking me for it.
3. I don't really care what people who mock me about Mafia have to say.
iim only responding to the bold because the rest is irrelevent

first off the info i was given is that minato told you his role. which is hands down ban worthy on both ends. secondly i can't confirm this but someone who wasn't playing some how got the list (either VSA or I messed up and letr someone see it and i dont know if i did or him) but they gave it to you according to someone who is playing which i will not say a name until i figure out who gave the list up. again this is why i meddled with the game.

Shino's dad did know about my plan because it involved him but he didn't involve himself.

its just a big coincidence you knew the kage, medic, anbu, and rogue.... thats where i was calling BS and dont say you didn't know because ever step of the wya you guessed them all pretty well


if you feel i have some complex with manipulating you must have a complex to wanna be the leader because each game you played lately you try to get everyone to PM you this and that.. and felt the need to make this Council thread
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:40 AM
superbluff5 superbluff5 is offline
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Ok so obviously people don't want Amir on the council. I guess thats understandable. But for the council to be completely fair it has to be completely neutral.

It has to be made up of people that NO ONE has ever had problems with and NO ONE will be opposed to.

Amir doesnt fit the criteria so he is out :P

Hikari Link should be out to because there are obviously people who play this game who don't like him (Amir, Nogard, I .....mainly norcal and so cal players)

Shino's Dad is fine because no one brought up complaints about him

Same thing with wolfwood

Basically it has to be players free from scandal. I mean I think I am good.

Whats the worst thing I did in Mafia? Making the alt account and using both in game even though i got rogue for both? pssssh thats nothing That was like 5 games ago >.>
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:04 AM
Hikari Link Hikari Link is offline
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first off the info i was given is that minato told you his role. which is hands down ban worthy on both ends.
Unless Bozu4u told you, that is simply impossible, since that isn't the type of information I give out and even that I didn't tell him until later in the game, if I recall correctly.
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secondly i can't confirm this but someone who wasn't playing some how got the list (either VSA or I messed up and letr someone see it and i dont know if i did or him) but they gave it to you according to someone who is playing which i will not say a name until i figure out who gave the list up. again this is why i meddled with the game.
Never happened.
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Shino's dad did know about my plan because it involved him but he didn't involve himself.
I meant that he didn't know the specials and it wouldn't have ended if he died.
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its just a big coincidence you knew the kage, medic, anbu, and rogue.... thats where i was calling BS and dont say you didn't know because ever step of the wya you guessed them all pretty well
I neve knew the Medic. The Kage revealed himself to me after I had already sent out the PM saying you had been cheating, otherwise Shino'sDad never would have been pardoned. The Anbu came to me. Minato came to me. I didn't know the other rogues until you told Fidel to kill Nick.
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if you feel i have some complex with manipulating you must have a complex to wanna be the leader because each game you played lately you try to get everyone to PM you this and that.. and felt the need to make this Council thread
I do have a leader complex and I won't deny it. However, if I didn't feel I could do the job, I wouldn't try. I feel that the village generally needs a Regular Ninja as a leader, that's the role I keep getting dealt, and I feel I posses the skill set to do the job.

The reason I made this thread is because Nathan asked me to. Nick was supposed to, but he was apparently having a bad day yesterday, so the task fell to me.
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Ok so obviously people don't want Amir on the council. I guess thats understandable. But for the council to be completely fair it has to be completely neutral.
This is true.
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It has to be made up of people that NO ONE has ever had problems with and NO ONE will be opposed to.
I think this is not true. A general consensus is best, but when the reasons are arbitrary, that doesn't matter.
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Amir doesnt fit the criteria so he is out :P
Let's go with that...
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Hikari Link should be out to because there are obviously people who play this game who don't like him (Amir, Nogard, I .....mainly norcal and so cal players)
Thats a purely personal bias. I'm not denying that I shouldn't be on, but that's not one of the reasons.
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Shino's Dad is fine because no one brought up complaints about him

Same thing with wolfwood

Basically it has to be players free from scandal. I mean I think I am good.
I think it should have to be people who are good at the game, have a great deal of experence, and/or have run a game well. Or the could just show that they would fit well on the council.
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Whats the worst thing I did in Mafia? Making the alt account and using both in game even though i got rogue for both? pssssh thats nothing That was like 5 games ago >.>
You were in cahoots with Amir last game. You are a bit too close to Amir to be on the council, I think.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:10 AM
Jin Jin is offline
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BOTH OF YOU. STFU AND STOP ARGUING.

this is not the place for it. Yeesh it's like watching cripples swing crutches at each other. pointless.

anyways: I nominate VSA and Sharingan Warrior5693, never said i couldn't nominate two people. but those are the people i have the most confidence in.

and as far as the ontime posting for last game, If I had known the info needed my narrations would never have been late. I already apologized for that, even though it wasn't my fault.

edit: needed some bold.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:19 AM
Owwruiphantom Owwruiphantom is offline
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Ok so obviously people don't want Amir on the council. I guess thats understandable. But for the council to be completely fair it has to be completely neutral.

It has to be made up of people that NO ONE has ever had problems with and NO ONE will be opposed to.

Amir doesnt fit the criteria so he is out :P

Hikari Link should be out to because there are obviously people who play this game who don't like him (Amir, Nogard, I .....mainly norcal and so cal players)

Shino's Dad is fine because no one brought up complaints about him

Same thing with wolfwood

Basically it has to be players free from scandal. I mean I think I am good.

Whats the worst thing I did in Mafia? Making the alt account and using both in game even though i got rogue for both? pssssh thats nothing That was like 5 games ago >.>
Aww snap does that mean i can be nominated for the council XD
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:20 AM
Hikari Link Hikari Link is offline
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BOTH OF YOU. STFU AND STOP ARGUING.

this is not the place for it. Yeesh it's like watching cripples swing crutches at each other. pointless.

anyways: I nominate VSA and Sharingan Warrior5693, never said i couldn't nominate two people. but those are the people i have the most confidence in.

and as far as the ontime posting for last game, If I had known the info needed my narrations would never have been late. I already apologized for that, even though it wasn't my fault.

edit: needed some bold.
Look it's hard to just sit idly by while Amir slanders me. Also, I feel a need to point out why he should not be on the council because almost nobody else is. I don't think there is really much more to say on either matter though, at least until Amir starts making things up about me, but I suppose sine I'm not running, it doesn't matter all that much either way anymore. I'll leave the rest of that stuff up to the candidates.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:23 AM
Bozu4u Bozu4u is offline
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same with you. you are hiding someone who gave up the entire game list. you told me via text message.
Everyone already knows who gave up the list. Im hiding the person that got it, because he never asked for anyone to tell him. Someone thought it would be a good idea to share it with him and ruin whatever fun he could've had playing the game. That's a bull**** reason to ban someone and im not gonna let it happen.

The only reason I even responded to Canti's post is because some people think this council is about who can run the best game of Mafia, which is not the case.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:02 PM
Jin Jin is offline
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some people think this council is about who can run the best game of Mafia, which is not the case.
^this^
I think this should be taken into consideration when everyone is considered. It's not about how the person played, ran, ruined, or saved a game. It's about who can moderate with fairness and balance over a game.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:08 PM
Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 Shikamaru_Of_Hebi #1 is offline
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Everyone already knows who gave up the list. Im hiding the person that got it, because he never asked for anyone to tell him. Someone thought it would be a good idea to share it with him and ruin whatever fun he could've had playing the game. That's a bull**** reason to ban someone and im not gonna let it happen.

The only reason I even responded to Canti's post is because some people think this council is about who can run the best game of Mafia, which is not the case.
well the point is that hiding the person who distributed the list is just as bad as being that person.

if you get shot and i see it .

and i don't say anything and later am found of knowing i get in trouble too


all in all the point is that there is too much trouble that comes with the reasonibility of this game

from this point its all he say she say why who did what they did

i say just play the game stop cheating and move on

i never cheated . i maniplulated. the kage has a brain of his own and he could of said no. i never told him one true thing about the game state. so he formed his own action plain and simple
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