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Originally Posted by kunoalpha

Yeah, the game's so fast now, I thought when it was a you win turn 4 format it was a problem, now it seems like if you can't hit your first two drops you might as well scoop.



That would be Vanguard's meta now, at Least Yugioh there are still at least 3-4 decks in tier 1 every format [with the exception of TeleDad Format], but in vanguard it seems like you have to play the best deck or you lose no matter what, problems of when a game bases its game off the anime, rather than making the game's core stable, its where every game can learn from MTG.

Idk, I play Vanguard as well and I play Great Nature & Nova Grapplers and have topped every tournament I have played at. I don't like going with play this because its the best deck. I like to challenge myself to beat it. Gold Paladin is really solid now, but can only guard so much against constant stands thanks to the Death Army twins lol. But around the time of the Dreams format I had quit Yu-Gi-Oh! to pick up Naruto and I regretted that almost instantly because I was try to stray away from that. But now Naruto kinda reminds me of Vanguard because if you miss your Rides (Drops) you have a much lesser chance at winning.