Originally Posted by SharinganHeir
1. Reaper Death Seal isn't the only sealing technique that can stop edo tensei.
2. Quit making a big deal about you constantly repeating yourself. I saw it every time and it's getting old.
3. I was making a sarcastic remark because you already mentioned sealing multiple times.
4. I am merely making the point that in a never ending 4 on 1 battle, the 4 have the advantage despite all involved being immortal.
What part was illogical?
Naruto defeated the 6 paths of pain single handed. 4 ninjas who are more skilled and experienced than naruto are together. If they had to fight the 6 paths of pain, they would be able to defeat them like Naruto did. Naruto has surpassed them in power, yes, but he has a long way to go in other areas. I think any one of those 4 could still beat him (without immortality).
None of those examples are similar at all. Wood Style is a Kekkei Genkai
. That means it has to be in your blood. I don't see Someone with altered DNA being as skilled as someone who was actually born with the technique. Granted Madara is immensely powerful and skillful, but purely looking at wood style alone, I don't believe he can possibly be as skilled as Hashirama. This is an opinion. You don't have to agree with it, but I haven't seen anything in the manga to disprove it. The only evidence so far is Yamato (who tilts the scale in my favor), Danzo (who tilts the scale in my favor; he had almost no control at all) and Madara (who we are currently arguing about).
You don't know that. We haven't seen them compete. There is no proof that either person could grow the tallest tree, grow the most trees, grow a tree the fastest, put the most intricate detail into a 4 pillar house, etc.
Oh really? You're the writer of this manga disguised as a fan all this time? I'm glad you're here! There's a lot of things I have wanted to discuss with you./sarcasm
Show me the chapter that proves you right and proves me wrong and I will concede. Until then, don't make statements that you don't know to be true without stating that they are your opinion.
Maybe it all has to do with how the caster of the jutsu visualizes the ninja as the jutsu is cast
1st bold: you sure about that? they already tried to seal madara with other methods. Turns out, that didn't work. What makes you think they have another method besides RDS? we have no reason to believe that.
and ok, yes, they have the "advantage", but that doesn't mean squat unless they can seal him. that is my point. it doesn't matter how many times you can hit him. (also, I honestly still wouldn't say they have the advantage, primarily because of his ultimate susano'o. as far as we know, none of them can hurt him when he's using it, and if he was really going all out, he would have it up 100% of the time.)
2nd bold: Primarily, the illogical part was saying that any of the kage, in a one on one fight, could defeat naruto without being immortal. his raw power is unrivaled by everyone but madara. Nearly every trace of the "foolish" naruto is gone. What makes you think he has "weaknesses" per se, in other areas? Again, we have no reason to believe that he could not defeat any one of the kage.
the 6 paths have nothing to do with anything. I didn't debate that. Simply the claim that the kage could beat naruto was illogical, as we have no reason to......believe it. (seewhatididthere
3rd bold: That has absolutely no bearing on being good at it. It's all about elemental and spacial manipulation of chakra, in addition to strategic application.
As long as two people can use it, then it doesn't matter who started with it. Either one can surpass the other. We've seen madara use it. He is capable of creating entire forests, with no limits. He has unlimited mokuton. So does hashirama. Therefore, we can conclude they they would be able to match each other in forest creation. It is no different than the raikiri/chidori situation.