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Old 01-08-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CopyEyeKakashi View Post
I think it's nice to see tournaments from a local perspective. It gives a different look at decks, which may not be the best, however you can try to use something that worked for them(an idea, tech, etc) and try to incorporate that into your own success.
The exact same thing can be done from Top 8 reports. Even more so because 99% of the time the top 8 deck lists are also delved in on, so people get the most in depth look they can, second only to actually being there. The only decks we know of at this said local were OC's and 4 others, and only OC's deck.
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Originally Posted by killerkimimaro View Post
you guys need to stop bashing on these guys.....seriously I think the main reason u guys do it is because of Mullto4 and the fact that u guys dont like having articles thrown at u from multiple different sources especially if one involves more "well known" players
I don't recall "bashing" them except for really the time I was attacked for, well being the only one throwing criticism their way. Tell ya what, when Mull to 4 posts articles complaining about something as trivial as art, and treating a local win as something worth covering, then everyone will jump on them too.
but they won't, because they're smarter than that.
The next quote really illustrates that point:
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Originally Posted by kunoalpha View Post
And yes Mulltofour is another Blog, but they're a more organized blog about the game and the metagame itself, Yes a Local is nice but you have to realize, that's the least competitive event of the entire game, When I still attended Locals I'm pretty sure only 1 person was playing a meta deck at the time, and the rest of us were just playing what we thought was fun. There's no real reward for locals [well anymore, I miss being able to get Mats >:] and its why no one cares about them, no matter what tops at locals its not going to affect the metagame, because only the Chunnin and Higher Events do. I respect the idea of another Blog but guys, step your game up if anymore of the articles are as mediocre as I won my Locals then there's really no point in reading.
Pretty much everything to say on the matter really. (and he didn't even bash)

I'll use this here to talk about why people like MtF better. One of their latest articles was a "Top 10 cards of 2012" spot. They did good research on cards that saw the most play, cards that were literally shaping the meta, and which of said cards were making MORE impact than others. Proper research + important topic = good article.
Before that, they did a "Deck Building Tips" article, with steps pretty much every vet uses on deck building. Helps newbie players just starting out to catch up and be better at the game as a whole. SP could actually even do something like this.
Literally the only article MtF does that could technically be called "bad" is their monday rants, and that's clearly stated as being for lulz more than anything.

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Originally Posted by rockleeac View Post
hm, i usually agree with you majority of the time..but this is the wrong player mentality for the game..this is the kind of thinking that players get discouraged about playing because people who think that locals don't matter or that if you haven't topped a Chunin or SJC, you shouldn't be playing..part of the reason why people don't play the game competitively is because some players are a-holes who only think that its worth talking, associating or worth taking advice from someone whose topped..granted that yes, those who had the experience of winning tournaments or understand the rules are worth going to, but you can't go and diss the players who are trying to get to the same position you are. we were all beginner players or had to learn from a judge, or friend or whomever at one time..as soon as we start to marginalize others is when people will label you guys, and they really don't feel comfortable attending these tournaments. its in every card game yes, but with a small enough community as it is -- its only going to hurt it. if you want to help this community grow, support all players. don't put down others and acknowledge specific people.

(sorry allanime, not a call out to you but i actually wanted to address this for awhile..speaking from experience, i hate when players pick on certain people because they haven't topped events, or don't know the game enough or blah blah..so this just goes for everyone, can't have that way of thinking).
Actually, you twisted my words, and completely misquoted me here. (you sure you are not a politician?)
Locals matter VERY much, but only in attendance, and thats only to promote the game as well as play test "fun" decks (that can turn out devastating) or just goof off with fellow naruto players. I came up with my perm earth deck for that MI SJC when I played it "for fun" at a local. However, as was said above, they have NO impact on the metagame or the real standings of tournies. Their best prize is a dang coin for glob's sake :/ If everyone reported on every local, the GD would literally have about 10-15 new threads a day. I don't get how people are disagreeing here, before this was anyone EVER reporting on/looking forward to local reports? I mean hell, i'll come here every sunday and report my locals if everyone cares that much
Never once did I bash them, not a single time did I say "you're not important unless you top major events", and I ESPECIALLY never called anyone out for not topping. A) because it's a pretty "richard" thing to do and B)My best standing is 33rd at Gencon, that is certainly nothing to brag about.
I simply said what should be "reported" on to the entire community would be chunins and higher, because again as said above, locals mean very little for the community as a whole, and as I personally said previousl on these guys articles, a blog about a CCG should report on the biggest/best/most important news for the CCG
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