Originally Posted by MJM
9/10 times you won't be able to chain to The 3rd Hokage's effect anyway. Leave them as is. This was happening months ago.
I've been saying since Third came out that he should be errata'd to be:
eoj: pay 0.
I don't like it when you have a virtually unchainable effect. But that's a different issue.
Originally Posted by zbkillaz
I don't think the individual card effects matter, I think the point here is, and I agree with is that cost should not harm your opponent EVER. they should either be free, hurt you (would warrant a greater effect) , or help your opponent ( would warrant a greater effect).
Only effects should hurt your opponent period.
Correct. I have no problems at with with the effects themselves. But they're not effects, they're costs. They need to be changed to be effects.