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Originally Posted by Nejifan
I never said fiction wasn't for fun, but logic is not in opposition to fun. Impossible is fine, as long as it is consistently within the rules of it's own universe. For example, Dragonball Z. It is impossible for Vegeta's power level to have been as high as it was against frieza. you can track the math of what his power level was after each time he died. it literally started increasing by twenty and thirty fold, or more, where as, the first time, it didn't even increase by 50%. There is no logic there. it's inconsistant, and therefore unacceptable. I'm ok with power creep, on a small scale, and IF it gets explained well. Random power creep irritates me.
yes, teamwork is important, but on the 'effectiveness' scale, 5 kage together, are a more potent force than this alliance. At this point, the alliance is tired. It's like assembling 1000 elephants, which seems powerful at first, to fight the Colossus at Rhodes. The Colossus cannot be beaten by elephants, regardless of numbers. I'm not a madara fanboy, I don't even like him, but I acknowledge his power. As you yourself said, he has unlimited chakra. Not only that, he can use susano'o indefinately because of that, and he also cannot be killed.
as for breaking his jutsu, as far as we know, it was a "one and done" deal, not a currently ongoing jutsu. The only way I can think of for them to do that, would be to force madara to use some jutsu himself, much like itachi did against kabuto, but he could only do that because of sharingan. Besides, Genjutsu wont work on madara.
I'm not referring to the idea of a group beating an individual as being in consistant. I'm referring to power scale. an 1000 poodles no matter how hard they try, can never kill captain america. I don't like it, but that's basically the power scale at this point.
Honestly? Madara can create a forest of UNLIMITED size, or summon another meteor (because it wont kill obito), or use susano'o to kill everything in front of him with the sword, etc. I don't see any way for them to beat him. Susano'o into giant meteor = gg.
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5 kage being stronger than the entire allience is actually rpetty iffy given that there are some rpetty potent ninjas there. afterall naruto and B are there and they are easily on kage level. kakashi is allegedly kage level, regardless of whether or not he's necessarily on the level of the 5 current kage. guy is awesome and hasnt used his most powerful moves. having thousands of even semi competent people on top of that? yeah I'd say that surpasses those 5
not to mention its not only about power. sure madara is capable of just nuking them and calling it a day. and he can supersano and take them out with a swing. but clearly his personality is against him auto ending it, otherwise, he would have done it by now, and done it against the kage. remember when he said he wasnt going to use supersano against the kage anymore cuz he already showed it to them? that kind of mindset is whats going to allow him to be defeated.
you are underestimating the alliance and clearly don't understand the evil doers folly. they always end up talking or standing there letting the enemy power up, or refuse to insta nuke them. since you brought up DBZ, virtually all their villains are perfect examples. freeza for instance was many times more powerful than goku for the majority of their fight and only started really trying for real when goku attained super saiyan and was capable of defeating him. the good guys in DBZ should have lost in basically every arc, but due to dumb villains, they didnt
even in naruto its the same way. gaara would have crushed naruto and sasuke, but he was playing with sasuke and then did a dumb thing against naruto and put his friends in danger, thus allowing him to enter main character mode. even earlier, zabuza should have crushed team 7 as soon as kakashi was dumb enough to jump in the water (really kakashi...come on.), but he was playing with his food and his food bit him back and he lost because of it. this situation will be no different.
infinite chakra means nothing if you aren't constantly spamming super jutsu. if you aren't, you may as well simply have abnormally high, but still very much finite, chakra levels...basically naruto, only he still spams lol. he has the advantage, and in theory SHOULDN'T lose, if he was smart. villains are dumb. so he'll lose. and theres nothing inconsistent about that. anad like i said before, im not necessarily expecting them to totally overwhelm them with raw power. like i said, sealing jutsu and the like are very possible. this isnt a straight power level vs power level situation.
this just really seems like a case of you being bothered and upset simply for the sake of being so.